conflate liberal/conservative with the dominant left/right parties in these nations
does not include people who do not identify with one of those dominant parties
have some somewhat unreliable stats magic behind them

A lot of young men in the US are reporting themselves as "not a Democrat or Republican", and that's causing a lot of this proportional shift. I would bet that characterizes a lot of folks on this site who are not conservative.

https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/3/13/24098780/politics-gender-divide-generation-z-youth-men-women

https://www.allendowney.com/blog/2024/01/28/is-the-ideology-gap-growing/

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. I would be almost as upset with being classified as a liberal or a Democrat as I would be a conservative.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

At the same time I know many people (my brother included) that claim to be "independent" because they think that the trump camp is somehow outside the conservative camp, and therefore respond "independent" on polls. Because they think "I'm not democrat or conservative, I just want to drain the swamp" and then support trump, who is literally a swamp.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

conflate liberal/conservative with the dominant left/right parties in these nations

Why do so many people on Lemmy insist on pretending that liberal/conservative aren't relative terms?

Every single time those words get used with their little l/c to mean "relatively liberal/conservative) I see multiple people go "well ackshully a Liberal is a right wing ideology!"

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The actual opposite of conservative in this case would be progressive. Liberal isn't a relative term, progressive is. It's easy enough to tell from context but when there's already no info on how these graphs came to be it just adds to them being questionable.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those ‘unaffiliated’s are just embarrassed republicans. Just like most of the centrists you’ll run across.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

In the UK, where there actually is a centralist party, most of the "centralists" don't actually vote for them. Which really tells you everything you need to know about centralism. It's not a political ideology, it's just a refusal to engage.