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More Americans are Saying the Quiet Part Loud: They Want a Revolution (www.youtube.com)
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Things have gotten so bad in America that they no longer view voting and protesting as a viable way to achieve change in the system. As a result, more and more of them are calling for a revolution—and not all of them think peace is an option. In this video, we’ll discuss how declining material conditions, the collapse of the state, and rise of fascist authoritarianism has led to a conversation about the need to rise up and overthrow the system.

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[–] 5 points 9 months ago (19 children)

TBH I don't really trust anything that TropicalDingDong fellow says.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (18 children)

    Why?

    Do you actually even know why?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    We've had lots of arguments in the past. You don't exactly appear like a Tankie, but you're definitely not a supporter of the DNC and you recently made a joke about poisoning strangers with a package that sprays Urushiol .

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    We've had precisely one argument in the past.

    It was me warning you that you were engaging in a form of slippery slope with regards to antisemitism. I pushed back on you for that and you decided from then on we were enemies.

    And as I said in my joke, I would only ever extract urushiol for entirely legitimate purposes.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Oh we've had a lot of arguments. A LOT. At least one since I moved to this instance.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I'll take your word on that. But I'm standing by what I said. We were fine until I called you out for antisemitism.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Feel free to link to that, I've never discriminated on basis of religion.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Great. No worries and will do. Also, it looks like you've been deleting your alts, and I'm not sure which one you were under at the time. It will make the look up process easier if you can remind me your old account handle. I thought you were at .world?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Wait a second here. You're actually a supporter of the DNC? Really? Holy shit.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    The DNC platform:

    Tax the Rich

    Ban PACs

    Public Option healthcare identical to Germany's

    Protect the Environment

    Ban discrimination

    Antimonopoly enforcement

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That's the platform on paper. Whew is any of it. They never even tried to do any of it when they controlled all branches of government.

    They get the same corporate donations as the GOP, and those are the same investors they run to constantly. The only reason they even exist is as a lesser of two evils in the useless FPTP election system the US uses.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Sure. I'll believe it when I see it. Historically, recent history at least, they have stood for the oligarchy and doing whatever they could to keep progressives out of office. Their most important goal is raising money and maintaining two party rule. Don't get me wrong, DNC every single time over GOP, but let's be honest. That's not much of a bar to step over, and I'm surprised you don't expect better.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    DNC have not had more than 48 senate seats in 13 years. When they did have 58 senators in 2010, for less than 2 months of congress in session, they caucused with 2 independents to have supermajority to pass the Affordable Care Act which gave free healthcare to over 50 Million americans and made healthcare more affordable to a comparable number of people, they would have passed that Public Option healthcare plan if not for Independent Senator Joe Leiberman refusing.

    They also banned PACs in 2003, something they were attempting since 1995, and it lasted until 2007-2010 at which point the SCOTUS deemed it unconstitutional in the Citizens United ruling.

    As far as banning discriminattion, protecting the environment, antimonopoly enforcement, and taxing the rich: there are examples of all of those things from every single DNC presidency and congress.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I agree, they support shitty candidates way too much. Hence, their consistent minority. Remember when they chose that same Joe Leiberman as the VP candidate? Big brain time. I see that question all the time "what can they do?" Well, if they can't do shit, get out. Let someone else try. Support a ban on Congressional insider trading. I still say, Dems over the Magats is an easy choice. Why can't we have a choice between left and right, not right and nutter-right? The DNC platform of today is about what the GOP platform was in the 50s. That's not OK.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Voters choose candidates in Primary Elections.

    If you think taxing the rich is right wing, then maybe it's you standing in our way rather than vice versa.

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