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Ring Cameras Join Flock and Amazon to Now Create Direct Data Access for ICE (europe.pub)
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https://hrnews1.substack.com/p/ring-cameras-join-flock-and-amazon?r=1t17zr

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[+] -9 points 8 months ago (14 children)

I'm more concerned about safety on my property than privacy. I use Wyze Cams. I'm fine with it.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    You can have both. I have a 360 camera set up around my house that records to a local dvr. I can remote into it when I’m not home and I’m not supporting ghoulish companies like google or Amazon.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Which camera and software? I self-host some stuff, but there is a "too complex" point I sometimes reach.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The cameras I inherited from the previous owner. They’re fairly low quality analog cameras but they get the job done. They had a Night Owl Brand system but I replaced it with a reolink dvr I have on a vlan so it’s separate from the rest of my network. When I have more time I’ll probably switch over to frigate though. That’ll likely come with me buying some higher quality cameras that are digital.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    You can have both if you have the know how and time to do so. I'd rather just pay $60 a year and under $100 for the cameras. How does Wyze support Google and Amazon? I'm genuinely asking.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    My bad, I mixed up wyze with nest, which google owns. Amazon owns blink and ring. I do know wyze was founded by former Amazon employees, which is definitely not the same as their being controlled or supported by Amazon. That said, you may want to read up on some of their security breaches, which have happened multiple times.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I'm aware. I just don't care that some random person could see my driveway momentarily. If it kept happening, I would cancel.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It’s not just a random person, you’re opening yourself up to the government subpoenaing wyze and collecting information about you without your knowledge or consent. In a normal world with a responsible government that wouldn’t be a huge deal provided you’re not doing anything seriously wrong, but that ship has sailed as of late. Don’t let them incriminate you with a fishing expedition for convenience

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    oh wow that's crazy. Why would they do that though? What does a fishing expedition mean?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Fishing expedition an expression for cases where a police officer or agency goes after someone, generally someone they don’t like, usually for personal or political reasons, by searching for crimes the person has committed in absence of any actual suspicion of a crime being committed. Basically digging up dirt on someone as retaliation for whatever they don’t like a person for.

    The current DOJ is doing a lot of it. They make up bogus justifications for what are clearly illegal search and seizures so they can make their political enemies’ lives more difficult. None of the charges will stick, but they’ll still ransack your house, confiscate your computers, shit like that. I don’t want to make their lives easier in the event they want to dig up dirt on me; at least they’ll need a search warrant to come in and steal my DVR drive out of my home rather than hitting up a tech company that doesn’t care about me beyond my being a revenue stream to get my data.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)
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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I saw that when it happened. I'm not really bothered by the fact that a random person somewhere may have seen my driveway. If it kept happening, sure. I don't have the wherewithal and time to set up a camera on a server, and in this day and age I feel like some sort of security camera is necessary. There's a serious case for privacy, but not all of us have the capability or concern that the echo-chamber on Lemmy does about immaculate privacy.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    You'll get downvoted for having this opinion here but it's a real take. Everyone has their own level of privacy they're okay with and yours is a bit lower than the average user here.

    If you're okay with the potential risk, then that is your own choice, no one is forcing you.

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