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Another ICE murder in Minneapolis (files.catbox.moe)
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Alex Jeffrey Pretti, 37.
No criminal history. A lawful gun owner with a valid conceal carry permit.

I haven't commented on any of the content of this story until now.

Pay very close attention the the 'agent' wearing the grey coat, with his back to the camera before he turns around and walks towards it holding a gun.

He goes in hands empty, retrieves the gun from the suspects waistband, at the small of his back, and leaves before the first shot is fired.

Every shot was fired, by federal agents, at an unarmed individual. Plain murder.

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[–] 24 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Thank you, this is the first video I've seen of the start of the interaction. It's a little hard to tell, but it doesn't look like the victim ever drew his gun. Bovino claimed in a press conference that ICE believed he had threatened ICE with his gun, which I'm currently doubting.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    There's another video that shows a man in a tan jacket standing up from and walking away from the dogpile immediately before the first shot. He has a pistol with a holographic sight mounted on the slide, pointed at the ground. This appears to be the victim's pistol.

    It is the 15MB file, starting with AA67, in this Proton Drive

    It appears that this officer disarmed the victim, then discharged the victim's weapon into the pavement. This appears to be the first round fired.

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  • [+] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)
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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I highly doubt it was intentional. That would require a certain degree of competence that is entirely lacking here. From the agent's initial and unecessary provocation, to the escalation with pepper spray, to the vicious attack on a compliant subject, there is no evidence of competency here. That the officer handling the victim's weapon lacked the most basic weapons handling skills seems on par.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not really seeing your point. Why is competence a prerequisite for premeditated murder? Especially since they actually fucked up and got caught on video.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Hanlon's Razor. Incompetence adequately explains everything that happened here, and is, IMO, much more damaging. A competent group of conspirators can be brought under control. An incompetent group can't help but continue fucking up, time and time again.

    The latter is much more dangerous.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    This is the one that needs to be at the top. Someone posted this below, so yes, AA67 definitely shows grey guy taking the victims gun before the execution happens.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    we get it he had a gun, but why did the gray-coat not indicate to them that he's been disarmed? They just shouted "Gun..Gun..", then that ill-trained trigger-happy lowlife who shot him literally pushed the grey-coat agent away before shooting him in the back. I can't believe he did not realize that he was disarmed. There is no excuse

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