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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You know, when people say piefed is like reddit, I don't know if they realize it's exactly like reddit.

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't see how those things in total make it like Reddit. For one, Reddit is overrun by AI slop in many areas. Piefed actively tries to mitigate it.

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

Sure, but going down this list, most seems arbitrary and not based on data to mitigate slop bots.

Social credit scores are why I bailed on reddit. Not karma, but their "Contributor quality score" that demands people grind comments to keep the account alive.

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Social credit scores are why I bailed on reddit. Not karma, but their “Contributor quality score” that demands people grind comments to keep the account alive.

I already addressed this regarding Piefed here.

Trolls/spammers etc are serious problems on sites like Lemmy and Piefed (and on Reddit). If you’re a new account and you’ve managed to get -100 reputation that quickly, it’s not a good sign. If and as the Fediverse grows, instance owners are going to need more observation tools to catch this type of stuff.

Whilst having +++ karma is obviously not worth note, a new account on -100 is.

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[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Sounds like hell for someone with problems to put thoughts in words and/or uncommon opinions. You either go blend with the mass or die.

Also, could I use my current lemmy account to upvote my each pie comment, to get better score in few minutes? Kinda fragile for cheats.

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago

To be fair, people can already use alts to upvote on the fediverse right now. It's just obvious when they do so because of public voting, so doing so normally gets an account banned.

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[+] Canyon201@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child)

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago

No, it doesn't

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[–] quinceyBones@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

All that is optional and can be turned off in Admin settings.

Not to mention you’re exaggerating a loot.

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[–] Canyon201@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Glad you agree that Rimu is putting his own beliefs and ideology into the piefed code, any chance you know of similar issues with the lemmy code? Not if there isn't any documentation and how do the users know if the social credit score is active on their instance? He intentionally makes it hard to know if your image or comment even applies, it is like this bizarre shadowban for anyone the glorious leader doesn't like.

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[–] RetroLemmings@retrolemmy.com -1 points 8 months ago

So everyone is clear your an alt-account of someone from lemmygrad or Hexbear.

You only seem to be active every few months in very specific posts where your beloved instance pro-Russia propaganda mill is at threat or you can bad mouth people who you don’t agree with.

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social -1 points 8 months ago

Again.. this is literally just piefed.social you are takling about here.

Rimu is very anti-4chan, sure.

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You cannot cast a vote on PieFed if you’ve made 0 replies, 0 posts, AND your username is 8 characters long

Okay. So? This is in part anti-spam measures. It's very specific, but how many users do you imagine this applies to in practice?

When a reply is created, from anywhere, that only contains the word “this”, the comment is dropped

Piefed.social only. Toggleable off.

Every user (remote or local) has an “attitude” which is calculated as follows: (upvotes cast - downvotes cast) / (upvotes + downvotes). If your “attitude” is < 0.0 you can’t downvote. Again there is no mention of this anywhere but deep within his biased-code

Yes, this is to mitigate mass-downvoting. Why is this inherently a problem to you?

Every account has a Social Credit Score. If your account has less than 100 Social Credit Score and is newly created, you are not considered “trustworthy” and there are limitations placed on what your account can do. Your Social Credit Score is calculated as upvotes earned - downvotes earned aka Reddit Karma. If your reputation is at -10 you also cannot downvote, and you can’t create new DMs. It also flags your account automatically if your reputation is to low. Echo-chamber achieved!

Trolls/spammers etc are serious problems on sites like Lemmy and Piefed. If you’re a new account and you’ve managed to get -100 reputation that quickly, it’s not a good sign. If and as the Fediverse grows, instance owners are going to need more observation tools to catch this type of stuff.

If you use em dashes your account is flagged to the admin, more like 1984-fed

AI detection tools. But I’ve seen a lot of AI posters right now caught through this. use of the em-dash is very much a sign, unfortunately. It doesn’t ban them by the way. It just flags new accounts doing it to admins. So? Admins can turn this off.

if you try to comment a .gif … you fail because the code lord Rimu doesn’t like it

Can be turned off at the instance level.

Rimu has turned the block into an instance wide shadowban again without telling anyone

No. If every instance was Piefed, you simply wouldn’t be able to reply to anyone who has blocked you. “Reply” is essentially faded out. The difference is that Lemmy doesn’t implement the block function in the same way, so Piefed just throws out replies by blocked users to the person who has blocked them coming from Lemmy. That’s the mismatch at play here.

If you can somehow still reply via a Piefed instance, it is bugged and not working as intended.

He vindictively targeted a single user with code

This has been removed now, and it wasn't "vindictive" in purpose at all.

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[–] Canyon201@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yea sure, if it wasn't called out how long would those malicious code stayed in?

Thanks for agreeing that there is clear bias inside the piefed code. Who knows if you can acually keep those setting or if a new "update" won't revert the changes back to what he wants you to see or not see. In addition how do users know any of this? Why is he even doing this to begin with? Are you an alt of the glorious leader?

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social -3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

What code are you referring to here? I addressed a number of grievances. Bias to what? Dealing with AI? Not liking it when a user substitutes "th" with another letter, making it annoying to read?

Why would an update revert out a change that has already been removed at core?

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[–] PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf -2 points 7 months ago

Not liking it when a user substitutes “th” with another letter, making it annoying to read?

That reminds me... whatever happened to the guy here on lemmy that did that? Did he finally stop doing it? I can't remember his username, but man it was annoying to read.

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[–] Agent_Karyo@piefed.world -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Every account has a Social Credit Score.

Keep in mind ostentatious posturing about alleged belief in free speech e.g. hyperbolic use of terms like "Social Credit Score" or repetition of common copytext/keywords "echo chamber" is not universally perceived as a good thing.

If you've ever lived in a country where people understand the value of free speech (without constant tedious self-aggrandization on this topic) this stuff comes off as childish.

When I say "understanding the value of free speech", I mean the understanding that free speech includes the ability to choose your moderation policies depending on context.

He has hardcoded links to his ideology into the sidebar

Again, framing this issue as "promotion of ideology" is not going to fly.

Believe it or not, but having a sidebar with "Misinformation & disinformation" is not as big of a thing as you think it is. I would even argue that "COVID skeptics" wouldn't give a shit about it because they actually understand the meaning of the term "promotion of ideology".

You're welcome to assume I am misinformed, I hate free speech or I am being malicious. Whatever works, I am just sharing a different perspective (from someone who lived in the US and does not find American-style freedom polemics to be in the least convincing).