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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 46 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

This really feels like a huge opportunity for Canada. But I don't know enough on this to argue for making a deal with China - or against it. This is all just spit balling and I'm ready to be set straight!

I mean I know Carney has come out against China on a number of things, calling them a geopolitical and foreign interference threat. I think he also mentioned their human rights record in the past. Does that change if we increase or decrease trade with them? I genuinely don't know. Can we exert more influence over China if we work with them? Can they do the same to us? The timing of this particular announcement is interesting. It seems like they find PP more desirable than Carney....

When you look at progress in tech, science and space, China really looks to have a lot of momentum and is poised to take over leadership in these areas. I would hate for Canada to be left in the dust because we hitched ourselves too tightly to a collapsing America.

Maybe we can make an automotive deal with China that helps our own industry? Diversifying away from the US seems interesting.

It would certainly piss off Trump if we made some big trade deals with China.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 6 hours ago

Can we exert more influence over China if we work with them?

We thought the same thing back in the late 90s and early 00s. It didn't work out very well for us. It gave them the economic and technological means to surveil their people and build up their military, while we benefited from cheap goods, but at the cost of losing our manufacturing base and electing someone who probably has serious brain damage. Who will now run our country into the ground.

All in all, I expect serious damage to our country, and China to go after Taiwan with their considerable military to grind up their young men, who have no chance of ever having a family after the one child policy screwed up their gender balance so badly.

If you have to hitch yourselves to another state, I recommend Europe over China.

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