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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

To clarify again, before I address any of your other claims -

Is:

“Nicotine as a mitogenic stimulus for pancreatic acinar cell proliferation”, Chowdhury, doi: 10.3748/wjg.v12.i46.7428

the study which you claim faked data? If not, which study do you claim faked data?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Also if you plan on doing that thing where you keep narrowing and narrowing the focus of the conversation until you can do a gotcha like "aha! You said they 'are studying' but in fact they completed this study in the past therefore they 'have studied' it which makes you a liar and everything you say wrong" then that's just trolling and there's no point to this conversation at all.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. They cited "Unpublished studies from our laboratory" which is nothing. Being charitable, they actually did all the work and then just decided for the hell of it to not publish.

As I said in my post:

Their model is convincing enough: nicotine activates certain signaling pathways which starts a cascade effect causing out of control cell proliferation (aka cancer). But the first domino in that chain is literally “trust me, bro” with no published experimental data.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Usually, as part of the scientific method, one conducts preliminary testing and uses that as a prompt for further research. Things like a two tailed t-test, for example, can’t tell you the direction of change but only that there is a change.

Or, you notice a pattern while doing other research, and then start another experiment to do proper statistical analysis.

The claim of “faking research” is an extremely serious one, and may be considered libelous.

Regarding nicotine only being mildly harmful, would you care to address any of the numerous studies I linked earlier to address that claim?