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Paying without Google: New consortium wants to remove custom ROM hurdles (www.heise.de)

submitted 3 weeks ago by cm0002@lemmings.world to c/degoogle@discuss.tchncs.de

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Pay securely with an Android smartphone, completely without Google services: This is the plan being developed by the newly founded industry consortium led by the German Volla Systeme GmbH. It is an open-source alternative to Google Play Integrity. This proprietary interface decides on Android smartphones with Google Play services whether banking, government, or wallet apps are allowed to run on a smartphone.

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[–] doc@fedia.io 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

For those to whom this made you think GrapheneOS, they're opposed as this is basically substituting Goodle for another proprietary system with no meaningful improvement to security.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116200110686604617

[–] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It is an open-source alternative to Google Play Integrity

substituting Goodle for another proprietary system

I'd really appreciate it more if Graphene folk would be more constructive with criticism, because very often it comes across as incoherent and knee jerk rants. Really off-putting.

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 weeks ago

GrapheneOS themselves never said it's proprietary. This is (part of) what they actually said:

Play Integrity API should be regulated out of existence rather than making another system where companies permit their own products while disallowing others. It shouldn't be legal when Google does it and it shouldn't be legal when Volla and Murena do it either. This is wrong.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@GrapheneOS@GrapheneOS.social is such a toxic account, holy shit. They are always fire and brimstone. It's as if they don't have a "chill" nor "constructive"mode.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah they don't. They also accused these companies of doing this as some sort of "personal attack" on them. That's literally what they called it. I love them but they're a bunch of loonies.