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General Discussion Thread - Juche 115, Week 13 (europe.pub)
submitted 7 months ago by [M] to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
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Welcome again to everybody. Take a seat make yourself at home, and please let me know if you find the Radio Remote its been missing sense last week. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is the weekly discussion thread.

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[–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The Vietnamese government and establishments don't actively censor pro-Israel content, neither do they actively censor anti-Israel content. It's just that the kinds of (Vietnamese-speaking) people who are pro-Israel are usually also pro-West, pro-Trump, reactionary, anti-communist, and anti-Vietnam. Most Vietnamese hate these kinds of people. But most of these anti-Vietnam people also live in the West so we can't really do anything about them.

I would also caution you against collecting news about Vietnam from hearsays and tabloids on social media (such as Twitter/X or Reddit). If you really care, do research carefully. Don't take words as face value.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    this is a really good point. i mostly get my information on AES states from lemmygrad these days. but ultimately i'm starting to think that this is an internet forum with all the limitations of an internet forum. the thing about the farmers i got from a post on here a couple months ago. i think it was in /c/vietnam. do you remember that or am i just speaking out of my ass here?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    You are referring to this, I believe?

    DISCLAIMER: This is not my area of expertise. I also know very little about it.

    There's a few things you'll need to keep in minds:

    1. Disputes regarding land compensation rates happen for every big project and every mega project. It is expected of the people, the government, and the business to negotiate.

    2. The government compensate the price of land according to the current value for agriculture lands, not the projected/speculated value. The Hưng Yên project is no different.

    3. Legally speaking, lands cannot be owned by individuals or households in Vietnam. Instead, they got Land Use Rights (quyền sử dụng đất).

    4. Government reclaiming lands doesn't mean that the farmers become jobless or be stripped of livelihood. The government is expected to have plan for them. The government must have policies to ensure their immediate survival, their long term education, their job training. These people are given preferential treatment when taking a loan from state-own banks.

    5. I faintly remember from my childhood, watching TV, usually when a big project is announced, the real-estate brokers (cò đất) would buy lands from the farmers and inflate the prices. This caused headaches for the government. I don't know if this is still a problem in the present day. But since the news rarely talk about it now, I assume it's no longer a problem.

    6. Whenever land reclamation happens, predictability, there shall be narratives from the liberals and the reactionaries, biased and one-sided at best, and outright alarmist and false at worst, trying to paint the Vietnamese government as oppressor. Do not be deceived by them.

    Now, as for the specifics, since my knowledge about this subject is not good, I shall refrain from giving you answers. I know this may be disappointing, but I don't like to speak on things I know nothing about. I'm sorry.

    But I can point you to other people who might be more interested in providing you information:

    • @genHCM on Twitter/X
    • @MammothMk4 on Twitter/X
    • @darrion_nguyen on Twitter/X

    @genHCM in particular did mention the Hưng Yên project at least once, IIRC.

    DISCLAIMER: I don't personally know any of them. I just saw that they wrote a lot. Basically, I vibe-recommended them to you. If they later turn out to be reactionaries or stupid, don't lump me into them.

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