codewizard comments on I've never met a loud and outspoken atheist that didn't celebrate Christmas.

and winter solstice is the the rebirth of light (and there for life), so tagging some christ stuff to it does make sense.
(in the northern hemisphere)

and people enjoying family gatherings does make sense to.

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

@jesuisatire I don't understand the Christian part though !!

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[–] jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

@codewizard
What do you mean by Christian part?
What does Christian mean to you?

And what does pagan mean to you, what kind of paganism do you relate to?

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

@jesuisatire anybody who's got faith in Christ is supposed to be a Christian by default.

Pagan refers to those cultural patterns which are essentially non-Semitic in origin.

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[–] utopiarte@tupambae.org 1 point 6 months ago

@codewizard

I don't understand the Christian part though !!

Looks like you are mixing up important details that belong to different aspects called religion, culture, believes and even representatives of those aspects commonly refered to as idols.

Like to say:
There is a message, a messenger, a language that enshrines the message, as well as habits that represent them.

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago (18 children)

@jesuisatire for us, soltices and equinoxes are fundamental to astrology. Our seasonal festivals revolve around those.

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[–] jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago (17 children)

@codewizard

Well, for Christians who think that they have the mandate and obligation to disseminate the good news that you have to be afraid of death so they can sell you the relieve that suffering in the here and now will take away from you the fear of a especially invented hell after that fearful death, it is utterly important to appropriate culturally the customs of those they wish to conquer so they can participate in their parties mimicking to be just another one of the many ..
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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago (16 children)

@jesuisatire WOW 😲😲😱..... So you're anti Church ??😃😃😃😃😃

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[–] jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago (15 children)

@codewizard

We bonobos are just antiBS, that's all.

.. and we decided to let the females be bigger and stronger than the males so we can live peacefully in matriarchy ever after, e'fing around when ever we have the need to do so.

That's way simpler, and a lot easier, than to figure out how to turn a golden calf into a tortured figure on a cross so you can dance around it and live your life on your knees instead of rock and roll on your feet ..

Who needs to pay taxes to an institution to tell you that "keep calm and care for each other" is the best strategy for social beings? Only tribalists who fall for dumb nationalism and MDF (my dick first).

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago (14 children)

@jesuisatire what are bonobos ??🤔🤔🤔

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[–] utopiarte@tupambae.org 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (13 children)

A learning question, that's good!

Image of a King of Diamonds of the KDE playing card deck published on openclipart.org. In the case of fediDoppelKopf it is worth 4 points.

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[–] jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago (12 children)

I have a #learningQuestion too @utopiarte!

¡Do you ever look into the profiles you are communicating with @codewizard?

The Queen of Spades of the fairShare fediDoppelKopf cards deck. In the final count of a standard doppelKopf game this card is worth 3 points.

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago (11 children)

@jesuisatire you asked that question to me ??🤔🤔🤔

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[–] bitpickup@troet.cafe 0 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Your profile @jesuisatire states:

"Selfie eines unschuldigen Baby Bonobo das in die Kamera guckt."

But it looks like, and that might be the point here, mastodon does not offer (yet) translation for the Profiles.

Looks to me that your Queen of Spades and @utopiarte's King of Diamonds are perhaps at risk.
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[–] utopiarte@tupambae.org 0 points 6 months ago (9 children)

@bitpickup

Looks to me that your Queen of Spades and @utopiarte's King of Diamonds are perhaps at risk.

At risk?
Actually that depends on the nature of the game and the reasoning behind playing that King of Diamonds.

We might ask @mina how all this looks right now from a bystanders point of view.
🤔🤔

@jesuisatire @codewizard

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago (8 children)

@utopiarte l don't make anything of it.

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[–] utopiarte@tupambae.org 1 point 6 months ago (7 children)

Off what, Bonobo's?

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago (6 children)

@utopiarte of the comment that you made.

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[–] utopiarte@tupambae.org 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

@codewizard

Why did you skip the mention of @mina, as a by stander (an independent third party) that could be helpful\useful to explain\mediate perhaps?

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

@utopiarte @mina l've never understood cards throughout my life. Although l see people sitting in circles on the ground and playing cards. They gamble actually.

I've often heard the word "trump" and "over Trump"😄😄😄. Now I wonder what the term means 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

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[–] utopiarte@tupambae.org 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

@codewizard
Trump comes from Trumpf the german word for trionfi which (apparently (wikipedia)) is the original italian word for cards that overrule cards of plain suits.

Plains are like the commoners and trionfi cards are the nobility who do not have to obey by the normal rules, or lets say, trump the normal plain suit cards, they are stronger.

Commonly you have to play the kind of cards the initial card in a turn commands. If that is for example a plain of clubs, every one has to play a club. I someone does not have a card of the kind of the initial card of the turn, than they are free to throw what ever card they want to. If they play a trionfi card, a Trumpf, they win the turn over, unless another player that also does not have the requested plain plays a higher trionfi card and wins.

Auftrumpfen in german means kinda doing a show off, to expose your capabilities.

Where do you see people playing card games sitting in circles on the ground?
(The gambling (for money) is actually a secondary thing, to improve the tension and not necessary at all)

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

@utopiarte @mina l see..... So cards are like a game between classes ??🤔🤔🤔

And that explains Trump's actions in the real world 😱😱😱😱😱

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[–] utopiarte@tupambae.org 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

@codewizard
Sounds a little bit like an exaggeration and misinterpretation incentivized by the given description of commoners and nobility. Actually, looking at it again, french cards, and that is what we are talking here, represent different factions and high value cards, aces and tens, most likely represent goods. Jacks, Queens and Kings represent the nobility of the factions that manage the wealth and goods. Apparently "trionfi" was an addition to that general setup italians came up with around the 16th century.

Than there is the fact that their are lots of card games, in any case they reflect and shape the different cultural particularities and that games often are a way to reflect and handle reality, being it kids impersonating the world that surrounds them or people playing chess.

The intent here is to adapt the idea of a german cards game, Doppelkopf to conversations and discussions by for example stating something like "I have a good argument that trumps yours" or "I agree with your exposition, am on your team and there for place a card that counts a lot so you can take that value home for (our) team".

What explains that assholes actions in the real world?
Well, its in plain sight for everyone and actually addressed quite outspoken. Doesn't look like it's useful to waste time with the brain dead news cycles around him but to realize what the changed environment means for all of us on all levels.
🤷 🤷 🤷 🤷🤷 🤷🤷 🤷🤷 🤷🤷 🤷🤷 🤷

@mina
RE: social.tchncs.de/users/jesuisa…

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[–] codewizard@hear-me.social 0 points 6 months ago

@utopiarte @mina @jesuisatire

https://www.wopc.co.uk/india/ganjifa-playing-cards-from-india

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