That was my point, hehe. I also never spent on the "quality name brands" of disks, $10 for 100 cds, deal! $15 for 100 dvds insert fry meme. Maybe we just "took care" of our media better than others did? Personally, they are in spindles on a bookshelf, I just made sure no direct sunlight would hit them where they are, some days get warm before I can turn on the ac.