▲ 1568 ▼ ‘Your phone is about to stop being yours': anger brewing among Android fans as major Google app change draws near (www.techradar.com) submitted 5 months ago* by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/technology@lemmy.world 276 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (9 children) What about fairphone? Don’t they run a Ubuntu option? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 34 points 5 months ago (3 children) Hijacking as I've done on other posts. In my country all 3 major tellcos needed to verify phones can call emergency on VoLTE. FP5 does this. For whatever reason the telcos cant "conform" that (its not sold here but important and DOES work) so the device is blocked at a network level. Not blocked just for calls but even data. Phone is now a brick. Double brick once the Android changes roll through. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago (2 children) Damn, that sucks. What country does that? (If it's large enough to not dox yourself, of course) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sounds like Australia to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk -4 points 5 months ago* Damn. The guy just doxed himself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) The issue with Ubuntu Touch is that unfortunately it uses an outdated Android kernel (which is also usually not receiving security updates) and a Halium abstraction layer to access the closed source binary blob Android drivers for the phone’s hardware. It also requires that it be installed on top of an existing Android install, so in all it’s more of Linuxified layer on top of Android, which means it’s not truly escaping the control of the Android/Google ecosystem. UBPorts also appears to inherit the use of CLA's from Canonical: I'm very much not a fan of CLA's., which SailfishOS also employs. The advantage of PostmarketOS (even though it is not ready as a daily driver for the average person), is that it uses the upstream Linux kernel with open-source GPU/hardware drivers, not an Android kernel to access the outdated proprietary GPU/Hardware blobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago It suffers from that less now since Canonical abandoned the project. UBPorts is AFAIK just a community project to keep it alive. I would've assumed they would drop the CLA stuff, but I guess they didn't want to or couldn't for whatever reason? permalink fedilink source parent [–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) no they don't. they do have a partnership with Murena, which sells them preinstalled with /e/, which is a degoogled Android ROM. there is a Ubuntu Touch port available for some Fairphone models though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* So that would be a yes. Yes they do. And Why are we being confrontational about this? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GlenRambo@jlai.lu 34 points 5 months ago (3 children) Hijacking as I've done on other posts. In my country all 3 major tellcos needed to verify phones can call emergency on VoLTE. FP5 does this. For whatever reason the telcos cant "conform" that (its not sold here but important and DOES work) so the device is blocked at a network level. Not blocked just for calls but even data. Phone is now a brick. Double brick once the Android changes roll through. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago (2 children) Damn, that sucks. What country does that? (If it's large enough to not dox yourself, of course) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sounds like Australia to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk -4 points 5 months ago* Damn. The guy just doxed himself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago (2 children) Damn, that sucks. What country does that? (If it's large enough to not dox yourself, of course) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sounds like Australia to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk -4 points 5 months ago* Damn. The guy just doxed himself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) Sounds like Australia to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk -4 points 5 months ago* Damn. The guy just doxed himself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk -4 points 5 months ago* Damn. The guy just doxed himself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) The issue with Ubuntu Touch is that unfortunately it uses an outdated Android kernel (which is also usually not receiving security updates) and a Halium abstraction layer to access the closed source binary blob Android drivers for the phone’s hardware. It also requires that it be installed on top of an existing Android install, so in all it’s more of Linuxified layer on top of Android, which means it’s not truly escaping the control of the Android/Google ecosystem. UBPorts also appears to inherit the use of CLA's from Canonical: I'm very much not a fan of CLA's., which SailfishOS also employs. The advantage of PostmarketOS (even though it is not ready as a daily driver for the average person), is that it uses the upstream Linux kernel with open-source GPU/hardware drivers, not an Android kernel to access the outdated proprietary GPU/Hardware blobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago It suffers from that less now since Canonical abandoned the project. UBPorts is AFAIK just a community project to keep it alive. I would've assumed they would drop the CLA stuff, but I guess they didn't want to or couldn't for whatever reason? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago It suffers from that less now since Canonical abandoned the project. UBPorts is AFAIK just a community project to keep it alive. I would've assumed they would drop the CLA stuff, but I guess they didn't want to or couldn't for whatever reason? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago It suffers from that less now since Canonical abandoned the project. UBPorts is AFAIK just a community project to keep it alive. I would've assumed they would drop the CLA stuff, but I guess they didn't want to or couldn't for whatever reason? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) no they don't. they do have a partnership with Murena, which sells them preinstalled with /e/, which is a degoogled Android ROM. there is a Ubuntu Touch port available for some Fairphone models though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Smoogs@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* So that would be a yes. Yes they do. And Why are we being confrontational about this? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* So that would be a yes. Yes they do. And Why are we being confrontational about this? permalink fedilink source parent