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Boeing rule (europe.pub)
submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world to c/196@lemmy.world
 

And their planes made with scrap parts are still flying around.

Edit: A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy, reminds me of an article i read this week.

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/657978/reddit-ai-experiment-banned

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[–] CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I mean, fuck Boeing and the death still seems suspicious. But to claim that there was no police investigation is just lying. Suspect a cover-up or frame or whatever if you want, but seems like there was a pretty thorough investigation: https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/05/18/police-release-investigation-report-boeing-whistleblower-death/

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

there’s proof it wasn’t a suicide in the article you’ve linked there… well, it’s not the same as having the complete police report, buuut:

finger was still on the trigger when officers attempted to remove the gun from his hand. A police report states no fingerprints were recovered from the gun.

so, he wiped down the gun and bullets for fingerprints, and then shot himself?
sounds a lot like someone else shot him or put the gun in his hand and made him shoot himself (like by threatening his family)… and a shiny silver revolver is great for collecting fingerprints….
could’ve been an omitted detail… or soaked in blood?

they mention his fingerprints were found all over his notebook, so that seems pretty inconsistent….
….
i’ll just go smoke my Sherlock Holmes pipe now….

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You've misread the passive language here. 'no prints were recovered' can mean that they tried to find prints and couldn't, or that they never even bothered to try getting prints off the gun.

[–] Supervivens@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It could also mean no print were recovered other than his obviously which they may have just not bothered to mention

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that's the obvious answer here, his finger was on the gun so his prints were there too...

[–] Microw@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

Also, people need to understand that not everything you touch will 100% have your fingerprints.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I'll admit, this irks me in mystery shows. Those don't seem like something you'd reliably get.

"Sir, just as you predicted, we found the kitchen knife in the third drainage grate of the northern side of the city sewage system, wrapped loosely in five layers of cheesecloth, wadded with human waste. And, we've performed a DNA and fingerprint analysis on the handle. The prints perfectly match your suspect, sir!"

[–] parody@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

like by threatening his family

Exactly. Boeing investors/management maybe didn’t kill anybody. They simply asked him if he loved $familyMember1 ($age, $location, $bestFriend), $familyMember2 ($age, $location…)…

[–] bignate31@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let me get this straight. You think somebody else wiped down the fingerprints on the gun, shot him, and then stuck his finger on the trigger without thinking about creating any fingerprints? Does seem like someone half-assed the wrong step of that operation...

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Somebody wiped it. Even if the victim had prior to the act, there would still be his prints. So it seem to have been wiped after the shot.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

An unpopular opinion, but I'm not buying a conspiracy either. The guy wanted to hurt Boeing, had just finished testifying and saw the writing on the wall that Boeing was going to walk, and decided to kill himself as a last stab at bringing attention to it. Worked like a charm too.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s only unpopular because every time someone dies that’s even tangentially associated with some corporate fuckery the internet instantly calls it an assassination. It’s absolutely stupid, but the hive mind seems to be geared to desperately want everything to be a conspiracy. No better than the conservatives making vaccines a conspiracy.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If only we had the refrence of past experiences to better predict how corporations act in the future.

Chiquita banana hired paramilitary death squads to secure their bananas and they were never punished.

Hell, just a few years ago the US couped Bolivia so Elon could have cheap lithium.

The bigger conspiracy nut theory is ignoring observable reality to make corpos the good guys.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don’t put words in my mouth.

In no way shape or form do I view corporations as “good guys”. They are greedy, destructive on multiple levels, self-serving, cold, and often straight up evil.

Nobody here has observed shit except a someone died associated with a court case against a corporation. Everything here calling it a conspiracy is conjecture and made up opinion.

The hiring of paramilitary death squads and what banana republics are is a completely different and tragic issue that extends far beyond what a single “hit” on an individual is.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Don't suck on the words if you don't want them in your mouth lol

You picked a side

[–] SparroHawc@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You picked a side

Yeah. They picked truth and honesty over sensationalism.

Spreading lies about corporations doesn't help. They're bad enough anyways; we don't need to make up stories about them to paint them in a bad light, they're perfectly capable of painting themselves.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The braindead people out there who fight against you understand that playing devils advocate means you are advocating for the devil.

It's sad that the college educated are incapable of understanding this.

[–] SparroHawc@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Part of the purpose of debate is to find the holes in an argument so you can fix them. If you don't understand your weaknesses, you can't guard against them. That is why people play devil's advocate.

Especially when your argument is as full of holes as 'some corporations do horrible things, so clearly making implications about an evil corporation, no matter how wrong, is the right thing to do'.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Nah

There's no debating fascists

Fascists aren't effected by things like logic and reason

Sitting at a table to debate against invalid ideologies only serves to validate them.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Equating whistleblowers being killed to vaccine conspiracies shows how well people have been brainwashed into state obedience. Any narrative goes.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Evaluating everything as a conspiracy shows how well people have become incapable of critical thinking and applying cold logic and skepticism to both sides of the equation. Any narrative goes.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In this case there is no benefit of the doubt.

What do you think happened with Epstein?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He was not killed.

He did kill himself.

My suspicion is there were deliberate steps to take him off suicide watch and allow him the unsupervised time and means with which to kill himself. He knew he was fucked and his life was over forever coupled with scores of people wanting him dead, along with being raked over the coals to roll over on rich and powerful people. But apparently that’s not enough for people, they have to manufacture a murder.

But no, he was not murdered.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago

Idk if you actually believe this or not and it doesn't really matter, if you expect anyone else to believe it you're an incurable moron

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And the cameras all suddenly failed and the guards were sleeping right? Putting the fed in fediverse.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

This is not an unpopular opinion, the people here are just unhinged. It’s the other side of the same qanon coin.