▲ 91 ▼ The hardest challenge for most westerners to pass. (europe.pub) submitted 5 months ago by dessalines@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 98 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] melfie@lemmy.zip -6 points 4 months ago (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 16 points 4 months ago (12 children) The Great Firewall is unequivocally authoritarian Like the tooth fairy, there's no such thing as "authoritarianism", but even if there was, you'd have a difficult time making the case that allowing the US surveillance state to operate within your borders, is "anti-authoritarian". The US is more likely than any other country to harm you psychologically (or physically), coup your government, misinform you, or push far-right propaganda, all based on the information they gain about you and your peers through their spying platforms. India's most popular social network for example, is Facebook, meaning the US controls nearly the entire social media and information landscape of a country many times larger than itself. You can watch a vid here on why the PRC is not naive enough to do this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (2 children) While I agree with the overall statement, WhatsApp, Youtube and Instagram have more users, and a bigger impact on politics in India, than Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatsapp and instagram are owned by facebook. Youtube is owned by google. Still US tech companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I pointed this out only because people often think that Facebook and Twitter are the biggest social media everywhere in the world. permalink fedilink source parent [+] melfie@lemmy.zip -6 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 12 points 4 months ago That doesn’t mean the Chinese government and Chinese oligarchs aren’t also exercising an unjust degree of control over their own citizens. The Chinese government surveilling its citizens and tightly controlling the flow of information is not being done out of benevolence. Just vague, unsourced orientalism. You only feel this "in your gut", because your are propagandized by western media to hate the enemies of the US. permalink fedilink source parent [+] yoissy@lemmy.world -16 points 4 months ago (6 children) Thank you for claiming that authoritarianism literally does not exist. It makes it very easy to know that you are a fundamentally unserious person who I don't need to listen to at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago Thank you for claiming that Badguyism literally does not exist. It makes it very easy to know that you are a fundamentally unserious person who I don’t need to listen to at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Authoritarian in the modern day is only used by westerners to denigrate countries that build alternatives models outside the western order (Cuba, Vietnam, PRC, Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, etc), so much so that it basically means: "when you tell white people they can't do imperialism". Somehow, this country is excluded from its definition: permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago Go back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 months ago All your yap tells me is that you lack critical thinking or you're a fed. Good day permalink fedilink source parent [+] btsax@reddthat.com -12 points 4 months ago (1 child) No you don't get it, by redefining common words we can make society doubleplus good permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago Go back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 16 points 4 months ago (12 children) The Great Firewall is unequivocally authoritarian Like the tooth fairy, there's no such thing as "authoritarianism", but even if there was, you'd have a difficult time making the case that allowing the US surveillance state to operate within your borders, is "anti-authoritarian". The US is more likely than any other country to harm you psychologically (or physically), coup your government, misinform you, or push far-right propaganda, all based on the information they gain about you and your peers through their spying platforms. India's most popular social network for example, is Facebook, meaning the US controls nearly the entire social media and information landscape of a country many times larger than itself. You can watch a vid here on why the PRC is not naive enough to do this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (2 children) While I agree with the overall statement, WhatsApp, Youtube and Instagram have more users, and a bigger impact on politics in India, than Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatsapp and instagram are owned by facebook. Youtube is owned by google. Still US tech companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I pointed this out only because people often think that Facebook and Twitter are the biggest social media everywhere in the world. permalink fedilink source parent [+] melfie@lemmy.zip -6 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 12 points 4 months ago That doesn’t mean the Chinese government and Chinese oligarchs aren’t also exercising an unjust degree of control over their own citizens. The Chinese government surveilling its citizens and tightly controlling the flow of information is not being done out of benevolence. Just vague, unsourced orientalism. You only feel this "in your gut", because your are propagandized by western media to hate the enemies of the US. permalink fedilink source parent [+] yoissy@lemmy.world -16 points 4 months ago (6 children) Thank you for claiming that authoritarianism literally does not exist. It makes it very easy to know that you are a fundamentally unserious person who I don't need to listen to at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago Thank you for claiming that Badguyism literally does not exist. It makes it very easy to know that you are a fundamentally unserious person who I don’t need to listen to at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Authoritarian in the modern day is only used by westerners to denigrate countries that build alternatives models outside the western order (Cuba, Vietnam, PRC, Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, etc), so much so that it basically means: "when you tell white people they can't do imperialism". Somehow, this country is excluded from its definition: permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago Go back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 months ago All your yap tells me is that you lack critical thinking or you're a fed. Good day permalink fedilink source parent [+] btsax@reddthat.com -12 points 4 months ago (1 child) No you don't get it, by redefining common words we can make society doubleplus good permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago Go back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (2 children) While I agree with the overall statement, WhatsApp, Youtube and Instagram have more users, and a bigger impact on politics in India, than Facebook. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatsapp and instagram are owned by facebook. Youtube is owned by google. Still US tech companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I pointed this out only because people often think that Facebook and Twitter are the biggest social media everywhere in the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Whatsapp and instagram are owned by facebook. Youtube is owned by google. Still US tech companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I pointed this out only because people often think that Facebook and Twitter are the biggest social media everywhere in the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Yes, I pointed this out only because people often think that Facebook and Twitter are the biggest social media everywhere in the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] melfie@lemmy.zip -6 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 12 points 4 months ago That doesn’t mean the Chinese government and Chinese oligarchs aren’t also exercising an unjust degree of control over their own citizens. The Chinese government surveilling its citizens and tightly controlling the flow of information is not being done out of benevolence. Just vague, unsourced orientalism. You only feel this "in your gut", because your are propagandized by western media to hate the enemies of the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 12 points 4 months ago That doesn’t mean the Chinese government and Chinese oligarchs aren’t also exercising an unjust degree of control over their own citizens. The Chinese government surveilling its citizens and tightly controlling the flow of information is not being done out of benevolence. Just vague, unsourced orientalism. You only feel this "in your gut", because your are propagandized by western media to hate the enemies of the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yoissy@lemmy.world -16 points 4 months ago (6 children) Thank you for claiming that authoritarianism literally does not exist. It makes it very easy to know that you are a fundamentally unserious person who I don't need to listen to at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago Thank you for claiming that Badguyism literally does not exist. It makes it very easy to know that you are a fundamentally unserious person who I don’t need to listen to at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Authoritarian in the modern day is only used by westerners to denigrate countries that build alternatives models outside the western order (Cuba, Vietnam, PRC, Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, etc), so much so that it basically means: "when you tell white people they can't do imperialism". Somehow, this country is excluded from its definition: permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago Go back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 months ago All your yap tells me is that you lack critical thinking or you're a fed. Good day permalink fedilink source parent [+] btsax@reddthat.com -12 points 4 months ago (1 child) No you don't get it, by redefining common words we can make society doubleplus good permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago Go back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago Thank you for claiming that Badguyism literally does not exist. It makes it very easy to know that you are a fundamentally unserious person who I don’t need to listen to at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml [S] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Authoritarian in the modern day is only used by westerners to denigrate countries that build alternatives models outside the western order (Cuba, Vietnam, PRC, Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, etc), so much so that it basically means: "when you tell white people they can't do imperialism". Somehow, this country is excluded from its definition: permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 months ago All your yap tells me is that you lack critical thinking or you're a fed. Good day permalink fedilink source parent
[+] btsax@reddthat.com -12 points 4 months ago (1 child) No you don't get it, by redefining common words we can make society doubleplus good permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago Go back to reddit permalink fedilink source parent