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[–] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I read history books. It doesn't start with death camps. It starts with little things like making people different. It starts with colored arm bands. The initial camps in Nazi Germany, such as Dachau, were established shortly after Hitler came to power in 1933, primarily to detain political opponents like communists and social democrats. These camps quickly evolved into a broader system for imprisoning various groups deemed undesirable by the Nazi regime, including Jews, Roma, and others.

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I dont know the source of the picture, but I assume the picture is at least from the later years of the Regime, after the Wannsee Conference. So the author of the post ist obviously refering to death camps and the holocaust and not the German concentration camps from the early years. I mean, someone else replied with a fucking joke refering to sprinklers.

    Concentration Camps in general werent that uncommen in western countries. Sure, as far as I know Germany "invented" the modern Concentration Camp System, but that was for the Herero Genocide in 1904. But to some point, many countries had something similar. At least in their colonies. Because fucking up foreign ethnic groups was and still is a western speciality.

    And if you want a (in my opinion) better comparison for the ICE Camps, you dont have to look far away from the USA. Take something like the Detainee Camps for Japanese originated People in the US during WW2, something newer, like Guantanamo Bay or all the other fucked up CIA- and War-Prisons-torture-Camps from the past 70 years.

    But please, please, please - comparing something like the ICE-Camps to the by far most abominable crime in all human history is in my opinion wrong. And many experts think likewise. If you are interested, i can look up material for this.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Comparison: People used to be normally working people one day. The next day they are beaten up, pulled far from family and imprisoned for no good reason other than existing. Are they being actively murdered in mass, no. Are they being stripped naked and worked til death no. Can they now go home? No. Is being imprisoned without any allowed contact or ability to defend they point of view similar to being imprisoned without any allowed contact with the purpose of eventually being murdered? Yeah, I can see that. If you don't tell me when I might eventually gain my freedom, that's similar to never gaining my freedom.

    I don't even know where to start to tell you, but the stories of the freed Jews from the Nazi camps did come with a purpose and request to learn from them to never let it happen again. Me, I'm okay with knowing that there are normal prisons for criminals. That's borderline okay. Acceptable for our level of intelligence. But a prison for those who you do not like is basically what they asked us to not repeat. So using that comparison is for the correct purpose.

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