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Finland to restrict the use of smartphones during the school day (www.euronews.com)
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[–] 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Because banning them works better.

If the school wants to teach responsible use, they can provide school-owned phones for use during coursework.

The problem is that if you have a class of 18 students and all of them are looking at their phones during a lecture or while doing practice problems, it is impossible to police behavior by differentiating who is taking notes and who is texting friends, or who is using a calculator app and who is using Wolfram Alpha. It's much easier to just say "no phones" so the teacher can quickly identify who is taking notes (on paper) or using a calculator (that is a TI 83) versus the students trying to sneakily use their phone under their desk.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (5 children)

    Restructuring the education system to not be a day care prison where chidren are desperate to do anything else would work better, but we don't like it when the day care doesn't keep our children locked up while we are at work.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'd prefer not going to university and rather spend all my time having fun. But as an adult, I can more easily rationalize why I should spend my time doing the former. Children do not yet have this ability - I certainly didn't and would probably not have attended school much if my parents didn't care. Phones were banned at my school and definitely forced me to pay attention as learning is usually significantly more entertaining/rewarding than fruitlessly trying to distract yourself by staring at the clock.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago*

    But as an adult, I can more easily rationalize why I should spend my time doing the former. Children do not yet have this ability

    Are you sure? I mean by about 5th or 6th grade, we'd all been taught that we needed to go to university to be successful. I for sure wanted to go to university!

    I tried going to university twice, straight after high school and then again ~8 years later, flunked out for different reasons each time, and realized that it's not even going to improve my career, at least now that I don't want to move to the US for work anymore anyway. So adult me has realized I could've started doing more programming earlier instead of even going to high school, and probably I'd be more successful. But kid me was super excited about university, and so were most of my peers.

    Phones were banned at my school and definitely forced me to pay attention as learning is usually significantly more entertaining/rewarding than fruitlessly trying to distract yourself by staring at the clock.

    This varies so much. I know I got bored as hell in most classes. The problem with analog textbooks is that you can read ahead, there's no lock saying "You can't open this chapter until next week". The problem with ADHD (in my case) is that you get super bored by the slow pace of class. End result is you run out of curriculum way before everyone else, and at that point it's watching the clock, playing games on your phone, or socializing. Watching the clock is also boring. Leaves phone or socializing.

    Besides, my curious ass spent half the phone time on games, half the time on reddit, and half the time on Wikipedia reading about things I found on reddit. Yes, three halves. I don't know, I was never good at managing time. Somehow everything takes more and less than expected.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No matter what structure they'll focus on what engages them the most, which is pretty much always going to be the digital dopamine drip feed in their pocket.

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