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[–] 14 points 4 months ago (23 children)

I'm out of the loop here, what's this drama about?

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (22 children)

    Proton is currently sponsoring the far-right French YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Lapierre

    It’s not just an affiliate link, but a partnership announced in the description and through an entire 2min 20s segment embedded in the video.

    Vincent Lapierre’s Wikipedia page is quite explicit about his far-right positioning and includes numerous sources. He worked for several years for a far-right organization founded by Alain Soral, which promotes anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, conspiracist, sexist, masculinist, transphobic, and homophobic ideas, and who fled to Russia to escape justice.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1tzbizh/proton_is_funding_the_french_far_right_on_youtube/

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago* (21 children)

    It's not a partnership. It's a normal sponsor segment. Leave it to a right winger to lie about their affiliations.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (20 children)

    Vincent and his audience might disagree...

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  • [+] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (18 children)
  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    why did you type it like a title?

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  • [+] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Feyd, can you explain to me whether you believe this man is actually lying and defaming Proton, or that it's no big deal what he's telling his followers? It can't be both, and I find it difficult to parse your sarcasm.

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  • [+] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)
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    Feyd, you barged in here to complain to me, did several 180s, demanded excessive evidence, then ignored and concern trolled over it.

    You are the textbook sealion.

    It's a good thing you're licking corpo boots here, because otherwise people might see through your facade.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    I find it all to be very strange.

    Proton pays Vincent money for a sponsorship.

    According to you, Vincent defames Proton.

    Proton doesn't seem all that worried about the defamation.

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  • [+] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)
  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children)

    I think it is easily believable that it was a single sponsorship and [a man who makes a living on being a political pundit] used the word partnership without even thinking about it

    So suddenly the narrative went from Vincent lying, to Vincent making a whoopsie. Odd how fast this stance softened.

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  • [+] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)
  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I'm confused about what you believe right now. Do you think Vincent is a liar like you said first? Or do you think he made a little oopsie like you said second?

    Both cannot be true at the same time.

    I think it's weird that you think Proton should just accept defamation from a political extremist, but I guess we just have different moral standards.

    But if you were being truthful when you say that you would change your mind if you saw a pattern, here you go.

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  • [+] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)
  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    I don't give a fuck what Vincent said

    Strange of you to say that, because if you don't care, you wouldn't have made two separate statements about it.

    Assuming your link is...

    Feyd, why are you changing your narrative by simply the possibility of seeing something?

    Edit: Let's see if you have the same dishonesty problems as Vincent does. https://vger.to/lemmy.ml/comment/26101269

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  • [+] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Neat. Since we're apparently on the same side, you can feel free to amend your blind defense of Proton, rather than keeping them up and wasting people's time

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