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UK: Under-16s to be banned from social media, Starmer announces (www.bbc.co.uk)
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Under-16s will be banned from using social media, Prime Minister Keir Starmer has announced.

Starmer says social media is making children unhappy, making it easier for bullies to abuse children, and is "designed to be addictive". A ban would give children more time, security, and more freedom to grow up - as well as more opportunities, he adds.

"That is all any parent wants. They want to know that Britain will be better for their children, that they will get a fair chance," the PM says in a speech in Downing Street.

Starmer adds that the government is "not prepared to compromise" on the safety and happiness of children - and that includes in the regulation and enforcement of this ban. He says the government has listened to and learned from countries like Australia, where a similar ban has already been introduced.

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[–] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Personally, I'm of the view that a blanket ban is simply not going to work, and comes with all the same problems of the online safety act, mostly that the government, or the companies they employ to verify ages, simply cannot be trusted with that information. If control needs to be implemented, it should be in having mandatory parental control options, but ultimately I believe it to be the job of the parents to utilise them, not the government.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    Personally, I’m of the view that a blanket ban is simply not going to work, and comes with all the same problems of the online safety act, mostly that the government, or the companies they employ to verify ages, simply cannot be trusted with that information.

    Government already has your informations, problem are the companies. But in the end I think that the only viable option to have some sort of decent check is that the company try to verify the age with the government, which only answer yes|no.

    If control needs to be implemented, it should be in having mandatory parental control options, but ultimately I believe it to be the job of the parents to utilise them, not the government.

    Parental control failed time and again. In the end the problem are not the kids who follow what the parents say, but the others. And nowadays it seems that parents, first and foremost, are more than happy to let social media to keep their kid occupied.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    As you say, the government already has that information, so while people might not be happy about that, it does seem a semi-reasonable way of confirming age. But the current plan is the reverse of that, with the government asking companies to conform age using a third party, which not only will definitely be using it for advertising purposes, but is more likely to get hacked, and all the information make it into even worse hands.

    The problem with a ban in response to poor parenting is that it just disincentivises both the parents and children who have been doing it right until now, because if they'll lose access all the same then what was the point of doing otherwise until now. And what would be the point of doing it right in future.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    And what would be the point of doing it right in future.

    I do the right thing because it is the right thing and not because I expect something in return. Then I may contest the law because it is stupid or I can follow it to the letter to show how stupid it is.

    In the end people that do the right thing will continue, like parents who don't give a damn will continue to don't give a damn about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    As do many people, but there are plenty others who will see this as being punished for doing the right thing, and will be less inclined to do so going forward. Whereas if this was addressed properly, it would continue to incentivise people who need that nudge to keep doing the right thing, whilst also pushing those less inclined to do the same.

    I guess what I'm getting at is, this is just a terrible way to address a legitimate problem. Which seems to be the way this government operate.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    As do many people, but there are plenty others who will see this as being punished for doing the right thing, and will be less inclined to do so going forward

    Maybe, but I am more optimistic about that.

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