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OpenAI Losses Increased Nearly 8X in 2025, With Spending Hitting $34 Billion (www.wheresyoured.at)
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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1198508/openai-losses-increased-nearly-8x-in-2025-with-spending-hitting-34-billion

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[–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

I think that number is massively inflated. $1k loss is much more reasonable value

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Where did you get $1k? Semianalysis's report is paywalled but seems thorough.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Rough estimation. Reasoning + answer is ~1k tokens. API price for Chat GPT 5.5 is $30 per 1mil of output tokens, $5 per mil, for new input tokens and $0.50 for cached tokens. They allow 3k reasoning prompts per week.

    Quick math 12000prompts x1000tokens=12mil tokens per month which will be 12x30= $360 add all long context costs at and you can double or triple that cost.

    If you consider non reasoning prompting cost can be scaled to infinity since as far I'm aware subscription offers unlimited access for that. But they have anti abuse clause in the agreement, so I doubt you'll get to anywhere close to $14k cost

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They allow 3k reasoning prompts per week.

    It's their unlimited plan that loses them money. Where did you get 3,000/week? Their message cap is hidden and users complain they don't know how much of their "unlimited" is used up before being cut off.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    They forgot to update polish translated help site. What a clusterfuck.

    https://help.openai.com/pl-pl/articles/11909943-gpt-55-in-chatgpt

    Użycie Thinking

    Jeśli korzystasz z planu Plus lub Business, możesz ręcznie wybrać GPT-5.5 Thinking w selektorze modeli z limitem użycia do 3000 wiadomości tygodniowo. Po osiągnięciu tygodniowego limitu zobaczysz wyskakujące powiadomienie, a GPT-5.5 Thinking nie będzie już można wybrać z menu. Jeśli korzystasz z planu Go, możesz wybrać Thinking z menu narzędzi, klikając ikonę + w polu wpisywania czatu. Użytkownicy Go mogą wysłać do 10 wiadomości co 5 godzin po włączeniu Thinking. Automatyczne przełączanie z GPT-5.5 Instant na GPT-5.5 Thinking nie wlicza się do tego tygodniowego limitu, a ChatGPT może nadal przełączyć się na GPT-5.5 Thinking nawet po jego osiągnięciu.

    This paragraph doesn't exist in eng version

    Right now it says Plus and Business plans are limited to 3000 messages per week for thinking, and that automatic switch to thinking doesn't count towards limit.

    Thy updated yesterday apparently so who knows what was written a week ago... So I don't know, If I misread business for pro, or did they update policy again and again.

    Edit: Correction eng exists but says

    If you are on Plus or Business, you can manually select GPT-5.5 Thinking from the model picker. If you are on a Go plan, select + in the chat entry box, then select Thinking. Go users can send up to 10 messages every 5 hours after enabling Thinking. Automatic switching from GPT-5.5 Instant to GPT-5.5 Thinking does not count toward manual Thinking usage limits.

    So they have some unspecified limit?

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