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Framework proved repairable laptops can work, but almost nobody is willing to buy one (www.xda-developers.com)
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[–] -1 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Umm, not sure if you have seen Framework's prices.

The current 13in with a weak intel processor is $1850 (and you can't get it until October). To buy an equivalent Dell? Around $1,000 and you can get it tomorrow. The upgrade cost for the motherboard (say you want to switch to AMD), will cost you $900. For that $3k you can buy 3 Dells all with ram and storage.

And no, they aren't positioned well without RAM as their newer ones use LPCAMM2. You don't have that just lying around.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    The current 13in with a weak intel processor is $1850

    Is not at all a weak processor. Intel currently makes the best x86 mobile processors on the market. The entire point is that you don't have to buy a whole new computer when you upgrade. You just get an updated motherboard and slap it into the existing chassis.

    The upgrade cost for the motherboard (say you want to switch to AMD), will cost you $900. For that $3k you can buy 3 Dells all with ram and storage.

    And all 3 will be outdated when it comes time to upgrade. And they'll all be shittier than the Framework.

    they aren't positioned well without RAM as their newer ones use LPCAMM2

    That is 1 of 5 computers they sell.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Umm that intel processor is the weakest of the bunch. The i9 version you can't even buy from Framework currently. I get the homerism for Framework, but I guarantee you that they will be out of business within 5 years.

    I don't think you get the point. To upgrade a Framework, even if you are able to move the ram and SSD over, you literally can get an equivalent laptop from another manufacturer with new RAM, SSD and the screen, battery and everything else, and still use the old laptop. With Framework, you move parts over and slowly upgrade. It's not sustainable at the current costing for anyone except for people who are very into home repair.

    Framework is moving all over their laptops to LPCAMM2 because the newer platforms require it for faster RAM, the alternative would be soldered on RAM which defeats the entire purpose of Framework, as you wouldn't be able to 'upgrade' your laptop or repair it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Umm that intel processor is the weakest of the bunch

    Brother, what Intel processor are you talking about? They sell the latest gen of processors, which are the best you can buy.

    guarantee you that they will be out of business within 5 years.

    LOL based on what? They sell more computers than they can produce.

    you literally can get an equivalent laptop from another manufacturer with new RAM, SSD and the screen, battery and everything else, and still use the old laptop

    For a lot more money, yes. I don't think you get it. You can just upgrade the motherboard. You don't need to replace anything else. You can upgrade the display, you can upgrade the RAM, you can actually repair the battery, the keyboard, the trackpad, etc. etc.

    the alternative would be soldered on RAM

    ...nope? Not correct. They can continue using regular old SODIMM RAM like they already are in the FW13. Don't know where you're getting this from.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    That is just plain not true. If you are a enthusiast and know where to look then you definitely can find better deal than framework, but getting a dell (or even better dell?) for half of the price is simple not true.

    On Dell website https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/new-xps-14-laptop/spd/xps-da14260-laptop, a core ultra 7 358H with 32GB Ram and 1TB SDD is 2749$ with no touch screen and a 2K display and windows Home.

    On framework website https://frame.work/products/laptop13pro-intel-ultra-3/configuration/new, the same processor, ram, storage, with 2.8k touch screen, plus windows pro cost 2299$

    Framework is cheaper than dell if you don't try to find deals or buy older models.

    If you buy older models, then framework don't need to replace ram, I can upgrade my laptop to kitted out ryzen AI 9 for only 849$, https://frame.work/products/mainboard-amd-ai300?v=FRANTE0009 with my existing 64GB of ram. I don't think you can get any laptop close to that quality with this price.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    It's very true. You recognize that Dell always runs discounts and the only people paying full price would be corporations or ignorant people such as yourself? Literally Dell is running a discount to bring the price down to $1,300. Wild how price inefficient Framework is, for something you can't get until at least October, when every other manufacturer you can get now.

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