▲ 202 ▼ It’s official: EU will force Google to share search data and open up AI on Android (ec.europa.eu) submitted 2 months ago by beep@piefed.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1267324/its-official-eu-will-force-google-to-share-search-data-and-open-up-ai-on-android
[–] buran@lemmy.today 53 points 2 months ago (11 children) They should focus on not letting Google kill Android. permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 10 points 2 months ago (5 children) Do the EU have the capability to fork it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] buran@lemmy.today 8 points 2 months ago (4 children) I don't know, but I'm not sure if a government funded fork would be the right move. Many people have their doubts about using funding for things like that, I wouldn't be opposed to it but Europe has other problems that people might consider more urgent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago OK. So in that case the easiest thing to do is to hand out fines. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) It would absolutely be the right move. Some individual countries are already doing this and there are proposals for EU to do the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_Sovereign_Tech_Fund permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, it would be so much easier for the eu to do chat control is they controlled the while os permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 2 months ago That's not how any of that works. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (4 children) Is "kill" a strong word here? They are heavily restricting it, and it's reversible with some effort, know-how, and compromise, right? But killing it, I feel like they are not. Even though I strongly oppose what they are doing, don't get me wrong! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] buran@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago (3 children) I mean, it's the Android Open Source Project. Restricting it would be against the interests of the Free Software/Open Source movements and I believe that's a violation on the principles of the project in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago I would agree, but I wouldn't say they are killing the project. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) These changes don’t affect AOSP. Basically if the phone comes with the Google play store it is affected. AOSP doesn’t have Google play in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] buran@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago I forgot that, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 10 points 2 months ago (5 children) Do the EU have the capability to fork it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] buran@lemmy.today 8 points 2 months ago (4 children) I don't know, but I'm not sure if a government funded fork would be the right move. Many people have their doubts about using funding for things like that, I wouldn't be opposed to it but Europe has other problems that people might consider more urgent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago OK. So in that case the easiest thing to do is to hand out fines. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) It would absolutely be the right move. Some individual countries are already doing this and there are proposals for EU to do the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_Sovereign_Tech_Fund permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, it would be so much easier for the eu to do chat control is they controlled the while os permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 2 months ago That's not how any of that works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buran@lemmy.today 8 points 2 months ago (4 children) I don't know, but I'm not sure if a government funded fork would be the right move. Many people have their doubts about using funding for things like that, I wouldn't be opposed to it but Europe has other problems that people might consider more urgent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago OK. So in that case the easiest thing to do is to hand out fines. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) It would absolutely be the right move. Some individual countries are already doing this and there are proposals for EU to do the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_Sovereign_Tech_Fund permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, it would be so much easier for the eu to do chat control is they controlled the while os permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 2 months ago That's not how any of that works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago OK. So in that case the easiest thing to do is to hand out fines. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 2 months ago (2 children) It would absolutely be the right move. Some individual countries are already doing this and there are proposals for EU to do the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_Sovereign_Tech_Fund permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, it would be so much easier for the eu to do chat control is they controlled the while os permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 2 months ago That's not how any of that works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yeah, it would be so much easier for the eu to do chat control is they controlled the while os permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 2 months ago That's not how any of that works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 point 2 months ago That's not how any of that works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (4 children) Is "kill" a strong word here? They are heavily restricting it, and it's reversible with some effort, know-how, and compromise, right? But killing it, I feel like they are not. Even though I strongly oppose what they are doing, don't get me wrong! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] buran@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago (3 children) I mean, it's the Android Open Source Project. Restricting it would be against the interests of the Free Software/Open Source movements and I believe that's a violation on the principles of the project in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago I would agree, but I wouldn't say they are killing the project. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) These changes don’t affect AOSP. Basically if the phone comes with the Google play store it is affected. AOSP doesn’t have Google play in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] buran@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago I forgot that, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buran@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago (3 children) I mean, it's the Android Open Source Project. Restricting it would be against the interests of the Free Software/Open Source movements and I believe that's a violation on the principles of the project in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago I would agree, but I wouldn't say they are killing the project. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) These changes don’t affect AOSP. Basically if the phone comes with the Google play store it is affected. AOSP doesn’t have Google play in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] buran@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago I forgot that, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago I would agree, but I wouldn't say they are killing the project. 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) These changes don’t affect AOSP. Basically if the phone comes with the Google play store it is affected. AOSP doesn’t have Google play in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] buran@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago I forgot that, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buran@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago I forgot that, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent