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The US auto industry is in big trouble. China now makes 75 percent of all electric vehicles sold anywhere on earth. US automakers make around 5 percent. (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] 34 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Especially without the tax credits to subsidize the cost.

Too bad the US doesn't have access to cheaper non-US made EVs.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Yep. Politics is part of the reason too. But only part of it. Most Americans can't afford a new car even if it's cheap. That's why new car sales are so low. The tax credits helped a lot of people buy EV's. Now that the current Admin has gotten rid of the credit people aren't buying or leasing them but people can't afford the pre-owned vehicles either.

    So what I'm saying is, people can't afford to buy used EV's either.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a70020914/why-2026-will-be-a-great-time-to-buy-a-used-ev/

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Just saying, but people not being able to afford a new vehicle is because of politics. Not Republican vs Democrat politics, but capitalist vs worker politics.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Yeah. I wasn't clear. I meant like. Not due to car manufacturers lobbying against EV's or tax credits etc to encourage people to by them/make them more affordable. That kind of thing. I wasn't thinking about the socioeconomics of why people can't afford cars.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Don't forget all the infrastructure that goes with EVs and an additional cost to add charging to your home or even having your own house to plug them in.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    This is largely an out of proportion concern. As long as you're like most people and park your car at home overnight for 8+ hours a standard extension cord and outlet is sufficient. If you need rapid charging then your life follows an irregular schedule or you got the absolute largest battery for the largest SUV/truck available.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Totally.

    I'm in a rental townhouse and only have a 110v standard outlet and it absolutely is enough is most cases.

    I was determined to drive at least mostly electric even if it cost somewhat more and the best I could afford was an Outlander PHEV. So if I do have to do more in a day than the battery it just swaps to engine. Daily job commute and other household driving and we are still floating between 75-90% electric drive.

    My wife wasn't convinced in talking through it with her. However she had never driven either an EV or PHEV. I got her to drive a Kia EV9 and she loved how it felt but it was just too expensive and she still at that point felt like it was only a pure EV thing to drive like that.

    Then we test drove the Outlander and she immediately wanted it. It is an electric first design and you can feel it.

    In my opinion we should have been doing traditional hybrid and/or PHEV back in the late 80s. Built up the battery manufacturing and quality and be on full electric for basically all home use vehicles by now.

    For heavy load and construction it should be bio diesel hybrids. Not that those are ideal either but still the best we can do in short term tech swap.

    And then of course trains. More trains.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I know a lot of people in NYC that can't run a cord to the streets, they would have to go to a charging station and their jobs don't provide charging either. I do have a garage with a 240v hookup, so I'm good and can do a charging station with a backup battery. A lot of people don't have access to convinient charging.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    They're not cheaper. They're just being sold below cost for the express purpose of putting their competitors out of business.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    My side does it: necessary and just subsidies in the national interest.

    The other side does it: flooding the market with unfair subsidies!

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