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[–] ape_arms@lemmy.world 93 points 2 months ago (16 children) Much quieter permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago (12 children) And slower. Great for plumbing, not so much a 3" aluminum post with 1/4" walls But hey, I might be wrong. 30yrs in the trades, but I've never tried cutting down an aluminum post with a pipe cutter Also if the method varies from person to person, or one person uses a unique method, it's easier to get multiple vandalism charges to stick permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Jumi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (3 children) It's only aluminium, you could probably chew through it if you wanted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) wet the post with gallium and put a piece of duct tape over it, i'll fall over in an hour. no tools permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Where would get Gallium? I saw a youtubr video of some dude (mark something, I think) and he did this to aluminium cans. Always wanted to try that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago Ahh, that's not the hard part; the hard part is how to get gallium without being noticed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] modus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (7 children) Hey, totally unrelated, but how does one cut copper pipes mounted close to the wall? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) There's a tool that attaches to your drill or impact driver. Kinda expensive, but when you NEED it, it's worth every penny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] modus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) So throw money at it. Got it. ;) Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Its a big part of why plumbers cost money. Like the auto shop guys, a lot of money gets spent on tools that get used maybe once or twice a year, sometimes less. But you must own them to do the work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) "Oscillating cutters" are good for close cuts in tight spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Cool. I saw those at the store when buying drill bits. Didn't know what they were. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Oh, I should clarify, "the trades" isn't exclusively plumbing. I can sweat pipes and lay out a house but I'm no expert That being said I always used a little stubby cutter for pipes close to walls There's other designs, including ratcheting ones that look so much easier than what I used permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago Oscillating saw with a semicircle blade and a piece of paneling behind the pipe in case you get squirrelly with it permalink fedilink source parent [–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago These things are a pain to use. Especially the cheap ones require more force than you'd expect and occasionally get stuck. They make a good clean cut but it's so slow and awkward that if you were wanting to do vandalism they're impractical relative to a reciprocating saw or better yet portable band saw. I also wouldn't underestimate the power of spray paint, even though it's simple to fix it's still expensive when the contract specifics all the maintenance must be done by flock themselves. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub [S] 9 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Would a straight cut be easier to add a union joint to and thus make the cost of repair slightly lower? I guess it would depend on priorities permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] djdarren@piefed.social 16 points 2 months ago* Nah, they wouldn't bother repairing the tube regardless of how it's cut. If they did and the repair broke, hitting someone, they'd have to take the liability. For a company with their funding, a length of ally tube and the cost to dig it into the ground is fuck all. edit to add: but multiplied by hundreds of them being cut down, it's not not fuck all. and it's funny. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago (12 children) And slower. Great for plumbing, not so much a 3" aluminum post with 1/4" walls But hey, I might be wrong. 30yrs in the trades, but I've never tried cutting down an aluminum post with a pipe cutter Also if the method varies from person to person, or one person uses a unique method, it's easier to get multiple vandalism charges to stick permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Jumi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (3 children) It's only aluminium, you could probably chew through it if you wanted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) wet the post with gallium and put a piece of duct tape over it, i'll fall over in an hour. no tools permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Where would get Gallium? I saw a youtubr video of some dude (mark something, I think) and he did this to aluminium cans. Always wanted to try that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago Ahh, that's not the hard part; the hard part is how to get gallium without being noticed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] modus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (7 children) Hey, totally unrelated, but how does one cut copper pipes mounted close to the wall? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) There's a tool that attaches to your drill or impact driver. Kinda expensive, but when you NEED it, it's worth every penny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] modus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) So throw money at it. Got it. ;) Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Its a big part of why plumbers cost money. Like the auto shop guys, a lot of money gets spent on tools that get used maybe once or twice a year, sometimes less. But you must own them to do the work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) "Oscillating cutters" are good for close cuts in tight spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Cool. I saw those at the store when buying drill bits. Didn't know what they were. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Oh, I should clarify, "the trades" isn't exclusively plumbing. I can sweat pipes and lay out a house but I'm no expert That being said I always used a little stubby cutter for pipes close to walls There's other designs, including ratcheting ones that look so much easier than what I used permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago Oscillating saw with a semicircle blade and a piece of paneling behind the pipe in case you get squirrelly with it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (3 children) It's only aluminium, you could probably chew through it if you wanted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) wet the post with gallium and put a piece of duct tape over it, i'll fall over in an hour. no tools permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Where would get Gallium? I saw a youtubr video of some dude (mark something, I think) and he did this to aluminium cans. Always wanted to try that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago Ahh, that's not the hard part; the hard part is how to get gallium without being noticed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) wet the post with gallium and put a piece of duct tape over it, i'll fall over in an hour. no tools permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Where would get Gallium? I saw a youtubr video of some dude (mark something, I think) and he did this to aluminium cans. Always wanted to try that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago Ahh, that's not the hard part; the hard part is how to get gallium without being noticed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Where would get Gallium? I saw a youtubr video of some dude (mark something, I think) and he did this to aluminium cans. Always wanted to try that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago Ahh, that's not the hard part; the hard part is how to get gallium without being noticed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago Ahh, that's not the hard part; the hard part is how to get gallium without being noticed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] modus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (7 children) Hey, totally unrelated, but how does one cut copper pipes mounted close to the wall? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) There's a tool that attaches to your drill or impact driver. Kinda expensive, but when you NEED it, it's worth every penny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] modus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) So throw money at it. Got it. ;) Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Its a big part of why plumbers cost money. Like the auto shop guys, a lot of money gets spent on tools that get used maybe once or twice a year, sometimes less. But you must own them to do the work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) "Oscillating cutters" are good for close cuts in tight spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Cool. I saw those at the store when buying drill bits. Didn't know what they were. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Oh, I should clarify, "the trades" isn't exclusively plumbing. I can sweat pipes and lay out a house but I'm no expert That being said I always used a little stubby cutter for pipes close to walls There's other designs, including ratcheting ones that look so much easier than what I used permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago Oscillating saw with a semicircle blade and a piece of paneling behind the pipe in case you get squirrelly with it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) There's a tool that attaches to your drill or impact driver. Kinda expensive, but when you NEED it, it's worth every penny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] modus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) So throw money at it. Got it. ;) Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Its a big part of why plumbers cost money. Like the auto shop guys, a lot of money gets spent on tools that get used maybe once or twice a year, sometimes less. But you must own them to do the work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] modus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) So throw money at it. Got it. ;) Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Its a big part of why plumbers cost money. Like the auto shop guys, a lot of money gets spent on tools that get used maybe once or twice a year, sometimes less. But you must own them to do the work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Its a big part of why plumbers cost money. Like the auto shop guys, a lot of money gets spent on tools that get used maybe once or twice a year, sometimes less. But you must own them to do the work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) "Oscillating cutters" are good for close cuts in tight spaces. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Cool. I saw those at the store when buying drill bits. Didn't know what they were. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Cool. I saw those at the store when buying drill bits. Didn't know what they were. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Oh, I should clarify, "the trades" isn't exclusively plumbing. I can sweat pipes and lay out a house but I'm no expert That being said I always used a little stubby cutter for pipes close to walls There's other designs, including ratcheting ones that look so much easier than what I used permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 1 point 2 months ago Oscillating saw with a semicircle blade and a piece of paneling behind the pipe in case you get squirrelly with it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago These things are a pain to use. Especially the cheap ones require more force than you'd expect and occasionally get stuck. They make a good clean cut but it's so slow and awkward that if you were wanting to do vandalism they're impractical relative to a reciprocating saw or better yet portable band saw. I also wouldn't underestimate the power of spray paint, even though it's simple to fix it's still expensive when the contract specifics all the maintenance must be done by flock themselves. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub [S] 9 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Would a straight cut be easier to add a union joint to and thus make the cost of repair slightly lower? I guess it would depend on priorities permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] djdarren@piefed.social 16 points 2 months ago* Nah, they wouldn't bother repairing the tube regardless of how it's cut. If they did and the repair broke, hitting someone, they'd have to take the liability. For a company with their funding, a length of ally tube and the cost to dig it into the ground is fuck all. edit to add: but multiplied by hundreds of them being cut down, it's not not fuck all. and it's funny. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] djdarren@piefed.social 16 points 2 months ago* Nah, they wouldn't bother repairing the tube regardless of how it's cut. If they did and the repair broke, hitting someone, they'd have to take the liability. For a company with their funding, a length of ally tube and the cost to dig it into the ground is fuck all. edit to add: but multiplied by hundreds of them being cut down, it's not not fuck all. and it's funny. permalink fedilink source parent