Email, docs, music, maps etc have reasonable alternatives and you don't depend on others to switch (a gmail user will receive my email from tuta). But with WhatsApp either you conceal and use it or you just don't talk to people (tried convincing them to switch to signal and it simply doesn't happen)

How do you deal with it?

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[–] 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

All my friends went cold turkey when I canceled all Facebook products two years ago. I switched to signal; some were using it already, some followed me, some use both. Screw the rest; they can use SMS, or snail mail, it turns out they were unreflective jerks to begin with. Culling is always refreshing. Admittedly, with signal being USA based, I will probably switch to a EU service soon, so the fun starts all over 🤪

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Delta Chat

    You can choose the relays yourself as its decentralised:

    https://chatmail.at/relays

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Im hearing more and more about Deltachat. Where is it based?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    eh, it runs on e-mail infrastructure; also, it does a little bit more than messaging.

    You can use your usual e-mail ID, and message anybody else's e-mail ID, but securely only if they also use Delta Chat. To work around the big servers seeing your social graph, they recommend using randomly-generated IDs on always-encrypted tuned e-mail servers that they call "chat mail" servers.

    Either way, you also get user-to-user web apps called WebXDC. This is something even some XMPP clients have added nowadays.

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