▲ 496 ▼ A win for privacy (europe.pub) submitted 2 months ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev 30 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (4 children) It's argued it already is opt-in. That's the 'Agree' button. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xylol@leminal.space 25 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just got a text from my cell service saying they changed the terms of service, and I agree if I continue to use the service and privacy notive. Not even an agree button anymore just a FYI permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 22 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Yep. "You must consent otherwise you're opting out of everything in existence and must go live in a cave." It's not consent if they didn't even ask, and it's not consent if you want to say no but there's literally no other option in existence. Just opt out of the whole internet and mobile phones I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mikina@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago I'm glad we have options here in Europe. Not many, but there are at least 3 mobile and internet providers at my location, so whenever one tries to pull something like this, I just call them that I'm switching providers. I've netted a permanent 50% discount and even managed to convince them to keep the discount at my old flat (which was a student's shared flat where my friends still live) and also transfer it to my new home I have with my partner. As far as I know, they can give you massive discounts, but you have to be willing to go through hell and run into a good call operator. But also, that was like 10 years ago and I didn't need to do it again. I can imagine that in the age of clankers, things may be a lot different (also with the transition to late-stage capitalism and enshittification). permalink fedilink source parent [–] breakcore@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago Dark patterns and dark intentions permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xylol@leminal.space 25 points 2 months ago (2 children) I just got a text from my cell service saying they changed the terms of service, and I agree if I continue to use the service and privacy notive. Not even an agree button anymore just a FYI permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 22 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Yep. "You must consent otherwise you're opting out of everything in existence and must go live in a cave." It's not consent if they didn't even ask, and it's not consent if you want to say no but there's literally no other option in existence. Just opt out of the whole internet and mobile phones I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mikina@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago I'm glad we have options here in Europe. Not many, but there are at least 3 mobile and internet providers at my location, so whenever one tries to pull something like this, I just call them that I'm switching providers. I've netted a permanent 50% discount and even managed to convince them to keep the discount at my old flat (which was a student's shared flat where my friends still live) and also transfer it to my new home I have with my partner. As far as I know, they can give you massive discounts, but you have to be willing to go through hell and run into a good call operator. But also, that was like 10 years ago and I didn't need to do it again. I can imagine that in the age of clankers, things may be a lot different (also with the transition to late-stage capitalism and enshittification). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 22 points 2 months ago* (1 child) Yep. "You must consent otherwise you're opting out of everything in existence and must go live in a cave." It's not consent if they didn't even ask, and it's not consent if you want to say no but there's literally no other option in existence. Just opt out of the whole internet and mobile phones I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mikina@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago I'm glad we have options here in Europe. Not many, but there are at least 3 mobile and internet providers at my location, so whenever one tries to pull something like this, I just call them that I'm switching providers. I've netted a permanent 50% discount and even managed to convince them to keep the discount at my old flat (which was a student's shared flat where my friends still live) and also transfer it to my new home I have with my partner. As far as I know, they can give you massive discounts, but you have to be willing to go through hell and run into a good call operator. But also, that was like 10 years ago and I didn't need to do it again. I can imagine that in the age of clankers, things may be a lot different (also with the transition to late-stage capitalism and enshittification). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mikina@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago I'm glad we have options here in Europe. Not many, but there are at least 3 mobile and internet providers at my location, so whenever one tries to pull something like this, I just call them that I'm switching providers. I've netted a permanent 50% discount and even managed to convince them to keep the discount at my old flat (which was a student's shared flat where my friends still live) and also transfer it to my new home I have with my partner. As far as I know, they can give you massive discounts, but you have to be willing to go through hell and run into a good call operator. But also, that was like 10 years ago and I didn't need to do it again. I can imagine that in the age of clankers, things may be a lot different (also with the transition to late-stage capitalism and enshittification). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] breakcore@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago Dark patterns and dark intentions permalink fedilink source parent