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[–] 41 points 1 month ago (66 children)

pro tip: stop fucking joining this shitshow.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (57 children)

    For many, joining the US military is the only way out of poverty, a path to citizenship, or a way to a higher education. Some others just are victims of propaganda, or just genuinely sadistic, but unfortunately most of the people joining the military are victims of a failed education and social security system designed to bring more troops into the meat grinder.

    EDIT: Holy moly. I do not condone US imperialism at all. I am not saying that people who fall into the poverty draft get a free pass either. What I AM saying is that the US war machine is a fucked system that results in endless atrocities abroad but unfortunately will only to continue unless we dismantle the institutions that blindly draw people to the machine so that these people who would otherwise be vulnerable can wake the fuck up and turn away from it. These systems include capitalism, propaganda, imperialism, jingoism, a failed education system, etc.. Chill out friends.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago* (27 children)

    Joining the US military means killing innocent men women and children all over the world.

    Is "wanting to escape poverty" a valid excuse to murder children? Bank robbery is a more noble profession than US militant.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (26 children)

    Is surviving a reason for doing something bad?

    I'd say yes and anybody that disagrees has probably never been in that situation.

    There is a reason the military recruits the poor.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    there are lots of ways to 'survive.'

    let me ask you question: what's worse from a moral standpoint: stealing an old ladies purse or killing someone? what about pitching a tent on land that someone else owns? what about parking your RV in a wal-mart parking lot overnight?

    some of those things are crimes and you'll be looked down upon even if you don't get caught.

    so, why do we say 'thank for your service' and then turn around and see the thief as less than human?

    i'd rather have someone poach on my land than bust into my house and shoot me in the face. i'd think anyone would feel that way.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    You either agree that the people your empire has been invading have a right to defend themselves by eliminating your ss troops, or you think that your ss troops deserve to survive and get higher education.
    Which is it?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    would you say the same for ICE? they also recruit from poor migrant communities because they're most desperate and the pay and perks are good - would you say they're justified in joining and terrorising the ones that didn't?

    and while I 100% agree that propaganda and the system failing them is the main reason driving that - we don't counter the propaganda by normalising the poor-to-terrorist pipeline as "well the system sucks but you gotta do what you gotta do" - there are red lines and if we could collectively resist them - we starve the system from being able to force people into the meat grinder

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    service guarantees citizenship

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    No, it does not. Grew up watching the non-english news, every year you would see reports of people that joined the military with that promise from recruiters and were deported at the end of their service.

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