▲ 1043 ▼ Early internet nostalgia (europe.pub) submitted 3 weeks ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 171 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] the_q@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago (10 children) What's before then then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago That would be the classical era of the internet, just after the baroque internet which in turn followed the renaissance internet. If you go back further you'll find the internet of late antiquity, the ancient internet before that, then finally the pre-internet which we can only study through physical media since it was the era prior to the earliest known examples of the internet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 point 3 weeks ago (8 children) What percentage of people do you think had the internet in 1995? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pohart@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago The Internet in 1995 was an amazing place. You could find so many scholarly articles and weird funny sites, but every place to chat was full of creepy old men trying to meet kids. Which we thought was hilarious until we got a bit older and realized some of our friends were trying to meet them back. You'd accidentally find all manner of horrific shit, but there was information available. It wasn't all true but it was almost all honest. Which is wildly different from today where it feels like almost none of it's honest. Even the stuff that's true is only selectively true and trying to manipulate us into a worse place. In the nineties fox news was strong and we were already experiencing a lot of it's style of selective truth coupled with outright lies from other places, too. On the Internet at the time it was a lot easier to avoid that stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] the_q@piefed.social -4 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) Not 0? This chain is confusing. I guess a lot of you are young and me pointing out a truth really bothered y'all. Sorry gen Z. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) In the US it was about 8%, most other countries were lower. Just 5 years later, Canada surpassed 50% internet usage, with the USA not far behind. The pace of change over the 90s was astronomical; there were *no webpages in 1990! So it absolutely makes sense to separate the "old internet" from what existed in the 90s. The oldest people in Gen Z were 3 years old in 2000, so I don't think any of them are speaking about that old internet from experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago* Seeing 'early internet' I came here expecting a discussion about IRC, Usenet and Gopher, to be honest. 'Early internet' means pre-http for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) The first public web browser was in 93. Get over yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] the_q@piefed.social -8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I can't imagine getting emotionally invested in something so meaningless, but OK. I'm over myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Well, you certainly seemed invested enough to act like a pedantic dickhead, adding nothing to a conversation other than pointing out how long you've been around and experienced you were in the internet before it was cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] the_q@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago Lol what? You inferred all that from a couple of sentences? Yeah I'm the one with problem... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago That would be the classical era of the internet, just after the baroque internet which in turn followed the renaissance internet. If you go back further you'll find the internet of late antiquity, the ancient internet before that, then finally the pre-internet which we can only study through physical media since it was the era prior to the earliest known examples of the internet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 point 3 weeks ago (8 children) What percentage of people do you think had the internet in 1995? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pohart@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago The Internet in 1995 was an amazing place. You could find so many scholarly articles and weird funny sites, but every place to chat was full of creepy old men trying to meet kids. Which we thought was hilarious until we got a bit older and realized some of our friends were trying to meet them back. You'd accidentally find all manner of horrific shit, but there was information available. It wasn't all true but it was almost all honest. Which is wildly different from today where it feels like almost none of it's honest. Even the stuff that's true is only selectively true and trying to manipulate us into a worse place. In the nineties fox news was strong and we were already experiencing a lot of it's style of selective truth coupled with outright lies from other places, too. On the Internet at the time it was a lot easier to avoid that stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] the_q@piefed.social -4 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) Not 0? This chain is confusing. I guess a lot of you are young and me pointing out a truth really bothered y'all. Sorry gen Z. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) In the US it was about 8%, most other countries were lower. Just 5 years later, Canada surpassed 50% internet usage, with the USA not far behind. The pace of change over the 90s was astronomical; there were *no webpages in 1990! So it absolutely makes sense to separate the "old internet" from what existed in the 90s. The oldest people in Gen Z were 3 years old in 2000, so I don't think any of them are speaking about that old internet from experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago* Seeing 'early internet' I came here expecting a discussion about IRC, Usenet and Gopher, to be honest. 'Early internet' means pre-http for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) The first public web browser was in 93. Get over yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] the_q@piefed.social -8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I can't imagine getting emotionally invested in something so meaningless, but OK. I'm over myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Well, you certainly seemed invested enough to act like a pedantic dickhead, adding nothing to a conversation other than pointing out how long you've been around and experienced you were in the internet before it was cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] the_q@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago Lol what? You inferred all that from a couple of sentences? Yeah I'm the one with problem... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pohart@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 weeks ago The Internet in 1995 was an amazing place. You could find so many scholarly articles and weird funny sites, but every place to chat was full of creepy old men trying to meet kids. Which we thought was hilarious until we got a bit older and realized some of our friends were trying to meet them back. You'd accidentally find all manner of horrific shit, but there was information available. It wasn't all true but it was almost all honest. Which is wildly different from today where it feels like almost none of it's honest. Even the stuff that's true is only selectively true and trying to manipulate us into a worse place. In the nineties fox news was strong and we were already experiencing a lot of it's style of selective truth coupled with outright lies from other places, too. On the Internet at the time it was a lot easier to avoid that stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] the_q@piefed.social -4 points 3 weeks ago (6 children) Not 0? This chain is confusing. I guess a lot of you are young and me pointing out a truth really bothered y'all. Sorry gen Z. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) In the US it was about 8%, most other countries were lower. Just 5 years later, Canada surpassed 50% internet usage, with the USA not far behind. The pace of change over the 90s was astronomical; there were *no webpages in 1990! So it absolutely makes sense to separate the "old internet" from what existed in the 90s. The oldest people in Gen Z were 3 years old in 2000, so I don't think any of them are speaking about that old internet from experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago* Seeing 'early internet' I came here expecting a discussion about IRC, Usenet and Gopher, to be honest. 'Early internet' means pre-http for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) The first public web browser was in 93. Get over yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] the_q@piefed.social -8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I can't imagine getting emotionally invested in something so meaningless, but OK. I'm over myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Well, you certainly seemed invested enough to act like a pedantic dickhead, adding nothing to a conversation other than pointing out how long you've been around and experienced you were in the internet before it was cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] the_q@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago Lol what? You inferred all that from a couple of sentences? Yeah I'm the one with problem... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) In the US it was about 8%, most other countries were lower. Just 5 years later, Canada surpassed 50% internet usage, with the USA not far behind. The pace of change over the 90s was astronomical; there were *no webpages in 1990! So it absolutely makes sense to separate the "old internet" from what existed in the 90s. The oldest people in Gen Z were 3 years old in 2000, so I don't think any of them are speaking about that old internet from experience. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago* Seeing 'early internet' I came here expecting a discussion about IRC, Usenet and Gopher, to be honest. 'Early internet' means pre-http for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YouTalkinToMe@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago* Seeing 'early internet' I came here expecting a discussion about IRC, Usenet and Gopher, to be honest. 'Early internet' means pre-http for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) The first public web browser was in 93. Get over yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] the_q@piefed.social -8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I can't imagine getting emotionally invested in something so meaningless, but OK. I'm over myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Well, you certainly seemed invested enough to act like a pedantic dickhead, adding nothing to a conversation other than pointing out how long you've been around and experienced you were in the internet before it was cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] the_q@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago Lol what? You inferred all that from a couple of sentences? Yeah I'm the one with problem... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_q@piefed.social -8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I can't imagine getting emotionally invested in something so meaningless, but OK. I'm over myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Well, you certainly seemed invested enough to act like a pedantic dickhead, adding nothing to a conversation other than pointing out how long you've been around and experienced you were in the internet before it was cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] the_q@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago Lol what? You inferred all that from a couple of sentences? Yeah I'm the one with problem... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Well, you certainly seemed invested enough to act like a pedantic dickhead, adding nothing to a conversation other than pointing out how long you've been around and experienced you were in the internet before it was cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] the_q@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago Lol what? You inferred all that from a couple of sentences? Yeah I'm the one with problem... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] the_q@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago Lol what? You inferred all that from a couple of sentences? Yeah I'm the one with problem... permalink fedilink source parent