MysticMushroom1776 comments on So I made this.

submitted 1 month ago by Val@anarchist.nexus to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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After people reacted so positively to the banner I made I had the idea to do the same with c/anarchism. But what to draw? Well I took the existing image and traced over it, adding some more character.

License (as always): CC-0, no rights reserved. Especially since it's traced over a generated image.

[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

You claim you don't believe in copyright and that you aren't in favor or it yet you keep calling copyright violations stealing. I find this really funny and hypocritical. Apologizing for the status quo certainly isn't saving anyone. It's called being a liberal. You aren't special in that regard. There's thousands of other liberals just like you apologizing for things as they are.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com -1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

You miss the point. I would call it stealing if copyright didn't exist, because it is taking the livelihood from artists. If they had their livelihood taken care of, say under a communist system, I wouldn't care.

But you pretending capitalism doesn't exist for them isn't Leftist, it's just delusional.

Also, you calling me a liberal and a hypocrite while you shill for billionaire-controlled AI is rich. Your insults mean nothing, because I see what makes you cheer.

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[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I would call it stealing if copyright didn’t exist

Copying data is not stealing period. Making a copy of 1s and 0s does not deprive people of the work. You cannot steal art online the way someone can steal a painting. This idea of ownership of ideas is insulting to the idea of art. It turns it into a commodity to be sold. Not something to be enjoyed. Real freedom loving anarchist aren't ya...

Also, you calling me a liberal and a hypocrite while you shill for billionaire-controlled AI is rich.

Explain to me how I "shill for billionare AI controlled by the rich"? The only thing you've shown me so far is that, you apologize for capitalism because of the way things are, which is liberal apologia by definition. And that you dislike AI so you claim that I'm supporting AI companies without actually describing how I'm doing that by use of local stable diffusion models with no subscriptions or ties back to big tech companies.

Would love to hear a real explanation but I doubt I'll get one, this reeks of the same anti-AI brain rot people from Fuck_AI vomit at me and db0 users constantly. AKA people saying I suck Sam Altman's dick. Which is funny because I can't stand Sam Altman or OpenAI.

Also, you calling me a liberal and a hypocrite...

Is fitting because that is 100% how you are acting. Anarchism isn't like Gender, you don't get to just identify as an anarchist and belay the meaning of what it stands for without people calling you out. Anarchists do not apologize for copyright and ownership of ideas. Ancaps do, but most of us don't consider them anarchists because they're just capitalist libertarians masquerading as anarchists.

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[–] Val@anarchist.nexus [S] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

In all fairness an argument could be made that using generated images feeds the hype capitalists create around "AI". eg. "Look even anarchists are using it". Obviously they completely ignore the anti-capitalist sentiment or the fact that the models were running on local hardware.

However I don't really think this matters, Our corner of the internet is small and no-one is going to subscribe to gemini because they saw some artwork generated here. Although I guess posting "This was made with locally. Fuck Corporations." below every post wouldn't hurt.

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[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

I don't think they're going to be pointing to us as an example. They very strongly dislike the idea of local AIs very much because they have no control over them. They can't charge a subscription fee, they can't force the use of guardrails. They can't even force people to upgrade to new models.

I'm not really sure they would be thrilled about people being empowered to run their own models, which if you look at AI in anarchist spaces is what the majority of people promote.