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GrapheneOS defends use of AI for coding (grapheneos.social)
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GrapheneOS is currently defending its use of AI coding tools on Mastodon against complaints by various accounts claiming to be users.

We do not understand where you're coming from or why you're so incredibly angry with us. It's not justified and does not make sense.

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[+] -11 points 1 month ago (10 children)

They're not using it for coding, they're using it to review code.

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  • [+] [S] -28 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    There is really no point arguing about such details. AI haters don't care how exactly you use AI. If you want the best, most secure software possible, you need to let the developers find whatever way there. Imposing arbitrary restrictions won't work.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    No, you need to make sure vulnerabilities aren't introduced by lazy or underpaid developers.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Its so annoying that all code has been perfect and bug free until these silly LLM people came and made buggy code

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    "Perfect and bug-free" <---------------> "Chock full of slop and security holes"

    This is a spectrum, but you already knew that and are just trolling.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I'm trying to highlight the absurdity of tieing buggyness to sloppyness, they are two distinct axis, not a spectrum. There are plenty of problems with LLMs but bugginess is not one of them. Idk if you've been watching the news lately, bug squashing in old code is up big time, can you guess why? And I wonder have you ever worked on a real codebase? Because the only perfect code is the code you wrote 5minites ago.. go look at Linux kernel code.. arguably the most used but of software out there, find me anything perfect in there.. like what is going on here in this artisanal, hand rolled, organic code?! You're arguing devs need more time to work on security, well guess what's giving them more time to work on security..

    Ps. Sorry to the Bluetooth dev, didn't mean for you to catch strays, I love your code anyway!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    There are plenty of problems with LLMs but bugginess is not one of them

    LOOOOOOLOLOL

    Idk if you’ve been watching the news lately, bug squashing in old code is up big time, can you guess why?

    Lying megacorporations, most likely. What is the source of this information?

    go look at Linux kernel code.. arguably the most used but of software out there, find me anything perfect in there

    Please refer to my previous comment. You are once again pushing this ridiculous strawman that human written code is perfect, when no one ever said such a thing.

    You’re arguing devs need more time to work on security

    Nope, you made that up, too.

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