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[–] 25 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

I mean, that's true, but hasn't been the case for at least a century, so why do they still eat like the aristocrats are hoarding all the spices?

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  • [–] 29 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

    WW2 rationing really messed up their culinary scene

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Sure, but that ended in the 50s. They can no longer reasonably use that excuse.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    The real problem in my view is that people don't recognise post-imperial fusion cusines as 'legit' British food even though the curry house is the definition of an Anglo-Indian institution. When people in Britain claim the tikka masala it's not being twee or politically correct, rather it's earnestly considering an immigration-originated fusion cusine as part of the wider national one.

    Also even pre-20th century British food isn't exactly bad, I'd argue it doesn't travel amazingly in many cases but a Sunday roast in our climate is sheer perfection. Too many people expect France or Italy from a country with nothing like their climate.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago*

    a Sunday roast in our climate is sheer perfection

    i've got some amazing roast recipes, but they're "english" or "american" cuisine so bleh. but godsdamn are they tasty when they're done right.

    also, y'all have enough immigrants from the larger empire that claiming anglo-indian cuisine isn't british cuisine just kind of feels racist (which is parallel to your point). how long do you have to live there before you're british? I like the french approach. five minutes.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    It's a bit like more traditional Anglo and Celtic American foods in that respect, lots of simple shit that tastes good by itself but is generally considered basic or has had certain context stripped with time. A good example is meatloaf which in some reasons was basically whatever meat and possibly eggs you had lying around after a bit thrown together in an loaf. But then you get shit like cheese curds and it's just deep fried cheese and it's great.

    Also you can end up with something like my ancestoral food traditions where it's just soup, cooked meats, and weird increasingly modified trail foods. The trail foods also happen to still be cheap even with modifications, though I guess rice and chili ain't exactly that complex.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    WW2 rationing really messed up their culinary scene

    What? That doesn't make sense. Even if it was a decade of rationing, that wouldn't completely wipe out and replace a culture's cuisine. Just look at all the other countries that had rationing during ww2 and other wars, and their food is still flavorful.

    Also this isn't ancient history stuff, if what you said was true then we'd see that British cuisine was radically better before ww2, but it's not the case

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago

    It's a real effect. Wikipedia has a whole section about it in their British cuisine article. A combination of rationing continuing well after the war ended (until 1954), agricultural issues, and a bunch of other stuff put Britain in a position where even after rationing ended, the effects stayed on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_cuisine

    It's not the only reason British food has a bad reputation, but it's part of it.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago

    i mean, that is one effect. there's also the fact we have way better refrigerated transport nowadays so what we view as food deserts now, that was just average. a lot of the fruit and veg came canned 70 years ago if you weren't next to a place that grew it. those awful fruit cocktail in syrup things were damn good back then

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    We don't. It's a bit.

    The part people forget is that we didn't just take the spices, we took the whole cuisine and the people who could cook it.

    The general British public has been eating a multicultural diet for a very, very long time. So when you see bangers and mash, rather than wonder why it isn't spiced, consider that we're just being retro and tomorrow we'll have Indian and the next day Chinese and....

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  • [+] -13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

    What you call Chinese comes with fries and gravy, man.

    Edit:🤣🤣🤣 must've hit too close to the mark to piss you guys off so much that you go through and downvote every comment I've made.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Apparently you really offended all the people who do get chips and curry sauce from the Chinese. Which always felt a bit sacrilegious to me, like these places are known for amazing rice and noodles so let's get fried potato which we can get at basically any other food place in the UK.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Gravy is something Americans put on everything.

    And even in Belgium, we don't get fries with our Chinese food.

    So sounds like you are projecting.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Americans absolutely do not put gravy on everything. Thats the british and canadians.

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