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Has anyone noted the pre-election uptick? (europe.pub)
submitted 1 week ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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[–] 78 points 1 week ago (72 children)

Not in near as great a volume as during the presidential years, but there's the usual drum beat of 'Dems bad so don't bother cause it's all useless' type posts. Might be that I see less though having defederated the triad when I switched from Lemmy to Piefed.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 week ago* (6 children)

    Saved. This should not be as applicable to lemmy as it is.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Everyone knows that in a democracy the only two options are voting and firebombing Walmart. You can't do both, and anyone who suggests otherwise is blue MAGA.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (18 children)

    Isn't it possible to ask some Dems to do better and maybe get rid of the geriatrics? It's hard to include all that when pointing out to someone why "vote blue no matter who" or "vote left straight down the ballot" are not the best choices.

    After all... We have "vote blue no matter who" and "vote left straight down the ballot" a few times resulting in Dems controlling the exec and leg branches which didn't turn out so hot for a vast majority of folks.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago*

    Isn’t it possible to ask some Dems to do better and maybe get rid of the geriatrics?

    Yes, right up until the primary is over.

    After that, it's time to hold your nose and vote for the (D) anyway as a matter of harm reduction.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    The purpose of Vote Blue No Matter Who is just that.

    Dems suck, don't get me wrong, but there is no path to anything good through the GOP, and 3rd parties are essentially a waste.

    The general idea is basically, push the Dems to a super majority for a few cycles so the GOP dies off, then split the Dems into a new Conservative (current Dems) and proper Progressive (Probably Dem Socs) parties.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    geriatrics

    Sure, get rid of the progressive ones as well as the centrist/establishment ones and then wonder why it doesn't help when you still have the younger progressive ones and younger centrist/establishment ones.

    why “vote blue no matter who” or “vote left straight down the ballot” are not the best choices.

    The time to get who you want is BEFORE the general election. When it comes to the general election, a centrist/establishment Dem is still better than a fascist. So in the general, "vote blue no matter who", but in the PRIMARY is where you support a candidate - not just with your vote, but money if you can, canvassing if you can, online discussion if you can.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    That's why you vote in the democratic primaries, to do that thing you just said. Then you prevent republicans from getting power in the general. It's not hard, but leftists would have to actually vote instead of just bitching online. You wonder why democrats don't cater to leftists? Leftists don't fuckin vote.

    In twenty years Dems have only held a supermajority for like two months and they passed the ACA. Fuck outta here with your bullshit.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Do that after you have power. Not during an election, in ways which amplify information warfare. Like, just activate a single strategic brain cell for like three months every 4 years.

    Republicans have figured this out. How long will it take progressives?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    Nah, this is the standard pattern. The usual election information warfare strategy simply doesn't scale as well for hundreds of races because it can't be orchestrated from a top down structure, so they don't put in the same effort. It's meant to rely on useful idiots, teenagers, malcontents and cynics amplifying a single narrative on the Internet, which just doesn't work when the issues are sufficiently local.

    It's honestly amazing people still fall for this though, but the evidence that it works is that they keep doing it, and gestures broadly. And also that they don't really bother for the midterms.

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