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Picard writers doubling down on criticism (europe.pub)
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Panel 1: Person labeled "TREK FANS" shouting "STOP MAKING STAR TREK DARK AND MOODY!" Panel 2: Person labeled "PICARD WRITERS" saying " You know what? I'm going to make season three even darker and moodier."
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[–] 16 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I despise Family Guy, yet I will fight you over Lower Decks.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    I feel as though that was a comparison made by someone who has never actually been forced to watch Family Guy, and is just using it as a byword for "mainstream comedy they don't like" because wow... no.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    The more apt comparison would be Rick and Morty, because they took one of its writers. Really comes through in the first season, which thankfully got toned down.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, they for sure owe a great deal to the revolution in adult animation that R&M brought out. Like you say, after the first season I'm glad they moved away from it and forged their own identity.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I didn't even mean it as a value statement, just a reference to tone.

    Regardless of whether Lower Decks is good or not, or is Family Guy-esque or not, it's still just tonally what I personally am looking for from a Star Trek show. If others are, that's great, I hold no illusion that my opinion is the only one or more valid than anyone else's, but I can only speak of and to my own opinion. For me, I love gags in my Star Trek, but I don't want it to be a vehicle for gags first.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (3 children)

    I didn't even mean it as a value statement

    Dude, you described it as slumming.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Into which you are reading too much. I regularly enjoy slumming in other ways/fields/regards. I am making content suggestions, yes, but boiling it down to simply value is reductive.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    I suppose this is a semantic difference - in my experience, slumming used non-ironically describes poor or impoverished behavior or actions (or rather, ones that are stereotypically associated with the poor and impoverished in the culture they're drawn from), so from several directions you're making a quite literal value based statement here.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    If you're familiar with the concept of "prestige tv," I think Old Trek is vastly more similar to "prestige" than Nu-Trek. That's what I meant.

    There are countless "prestige" shows I think are terrible, and likewise countless low-brow shows I think are tremendous.

    But again, what I personally want from Trek is more on the prestige side. That's it. That's all I meant.

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