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[–] riskable@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago (6 children) If they run Android, they ain't real computers. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] antiR@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 1 week ago (5 children) Not sure yet about the capability of the "Linux Environment." If it is not too locked down, it should be good enough as a linux + android + chrome laptop. Although, it might just be more cost effective to buy a Lapdock and just use Samsung Dex or Android Desktop Mode. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (4 children) The Android filesystem abstractions alone make it, "not a real computer" in my eyes. Want to save a file in your home directory? Forget it! There is no home directory! You've got "internal storage" and only certain, specially-permissioned apps can read and write stuff there... And even then, only in specific locations. Want to write a script that does, well, anything? Well, you can enable access to bash but how do you schedule it? There's no cron. No systemd timers. You need a special app. In fact, to do anything on Android pretty much always requires a special app! Built for your specific version of Android (that acts more like a desktop than a phone). The filesystem is slow AF too. Want to use regular git? Hahaha! Good luck! It's worse than NTFS! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] antiR@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 4 days ago We'll see upon release on how the Linux environment works on Android Aluminium OS whether it will finally be good enough for the stuff you mentioned. Part of the reason I read before was that Qualcomm was not enabling a necessary feature on their Snapdragon chips necessary to achieve a secure Linux terminal within Android. Although I am not very knowledgeable about these stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children) the way that the volumes work on android definitely requires a paradigm that most people are unused to, but easy to understand if you've spend time working on linux based appliances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I've spent loads of time working on Linux-based appliances! Most ran Debian and were fantastically simple to work with. Standard tools, simple/fast filesystems, and no surprises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago i only experienced debian based appliances in cumulus switches and they were a pleasure compared to all the other hardware -- especially arista switches & old infoblox nios'es!!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antiR@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 1 week ago (5 children) Not sure yet about the capability of the "Linux Environment." If it is not too locked down, it should be good enough as a linux + android + chrome laptop. Although, it might just be more cost effective to buy a Lapdock and just use Samsung Dex or Android Desktop Mode. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (4 children) The Android filesystem abstractions alone make it, "not a real computer" in my eyes. Want to save a file in your home directory? Forget it! There is no home directory! You've got "internal storage" and only certain, specially-permissioned apps can read and write stuff there... And even then, only in specific locations. Want to write a script that does, well, anything? Well, you can enable access to bash but how do you schedule it? There's no cron. No systemd timers. You need a special app. In fact, to do anything on Android pretty much always requires a special app! Built for your specific version of Android (that acts more like a desktop than a phone). The filesystem is slow AF too. Want to use regular git? Hahaha! Good luck! It's worse than NTFS! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] antiR@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 4 days ago We'll see upon release on how the Linux environment works on Android Aluminium OS whether it will finally be good enough for the stuff you mentioned. Part of the reason I read before was that Qualcomm was not enabling a necessary feature on their Snapdragon chips necessary to achieve a secure Linux terminal within Android. Although I am not very knowledgeable about these stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children) the way that the volumes work on android definitely requires a paradigm that most people are unused to, but easy to understand if you've spend time working on linux based appliances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I've spent loads of time working on Linux-based appliances! Most ran Debian and were fantastically simple to work with. Standard tools, simple/fast filesystems, and no surprises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago i only experienced debian based appliances in cumulus switches and they were a pleasure compared to all the other hardware -- especially arista switches & old infoblox nios'es!!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] riskable@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (4 children) The Android filesystem abstractions alone make it, "not a real computer" in my eyes. Want to save a file in your home directory? Forget it! There is no home directory! You've got "internal storage" and only certain, specially-permissioned apps can read and write stuff there... And even then, only in specific locations. Want to write a script that does, well, anything? Well, you can enable access to bash but how do you schedule it? There's no cron. No systemd timers. You need a special app. In fact, to do anything on Android pretty much always requires a special app! Built for your specific version of Android (that acts more like a desktop than a phone). The filesystem is slow AF too. Want to use regular git? Hahaha! Good luck! It's worse than NTFS! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] antiR@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 4 days ago We'll see upon release on how the Linux environment works on Android Aluminium OS whether it will finally be good enough for the stuff you mentioned. Part of the reason I read before was that Qualcomm was not enabling a necessary feature on their Snapdragon chips necessary to achieve a secure Linux terminal within Android. Although I am not very knowledgeable about these stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children) the way that the volumes work on android definitely requires a paradigm that most people are unused to, but easy to understand if you've spend time working on linux based appliances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I've spent loads of time working on Linux-based appliances! Most ran Debian and were fantastically simple to work with. Standard tools, simple/fast filesystems, and no surprises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago i only experienced debian based appliances in cumulus switches and they were a pleasure compared to all the other hardware -- especially arista switches & old infoblox nios'es!!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antiR@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 4 days ago We'll see upon release on how the Linux environment works on Android Aluminium OS whether it will finally be good enough for the stuff you mentioned. Part of the reason I read before was that Qualcomm was not enabling a necessary feature on their Snapdragon chips necessary to achieve a secure Linux terminal within Android. Although I am not very knowledgeable about these stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children) the way that the volumes work on android definitely requires a paradigm that most people are unused to, but easy to understand if you've spend time working on linux based appliances. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] riskable@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I've spent loads of time working on Linux-based appliances! Most ran Debian and were fantastically simple to work with. Standard tools, simple/fast filesystems, and no surprises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago i only experienced debian based appliances in cumulus switches and they were a pleasure compared to all the other hardware -- especially arista switches & old infoblox nios'es!!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] riskable@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I've spent loads of time working on Linux-based appliances! Most ran Debian and were fantastically simple to work with. Standard tools, simple/fast filesystems, and no surprises. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago i only experienced debian based appliances in cumulus switches and they were a pleasure compared to all the other hardware -- especially arista switches & old infoblox nios'es!!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago i only experienced debian based appliances in cumulus switches and they were a pleasure compared to all the other hardware -- especially arista switches & old infoblox nios'es!!! permalink fedilink source parent