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[–] 6 points 1 week ago* (8 children)

Well, refrigerators have gotten significantly more energy efficient over the years (when compared apples-to-apples with models with similar features*). So you might be missing out on some electricity for using an older one. And since a fridge is an appliance that runs at all times, energy efficiency can be especially important -- more important than most other appliances, which are only used occasionally.

*However, some older fridges can be more efficient than some newer fridges. Design and features play a role. Two door with the freezer on top is the most efficient design, however a lot of modern fridges tend toward multi-door designs with the freezer on the bottom, which is less efficient at keeping cold in, even if the compressor is more efficient at making it cold. Also, in-door ice makers are very bad for efficiency, and almost ubiquitous on modern fridges.

That said, though, you can still buy modern 'dumb' fridges with a simple, efficient design, no 'smart' features, and maybe even no ice maker in the door. That's the best choice for energy efficiency. (After all, running the screen and the smart features also uses electricity.)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    That strongly depends on what time-frame you're looking at. I only found this study which shows energy usage of refrigerators up to 2002. So unless your fridge is >30 years old, you probably won't see that much of an efficiency gain.

    Sadly I can't find a source in English for this, but the German Umweltbundesamt published a study on replacing appliances last year. The study more or less states, that, within a 10 year time frame, it's almost never worth it to replace a fridge from an ecological point of view. It might make economic sense, but that's about it. Here's a short blog post of the Umweltbundesamt about it with some infographics that may be a bit more language-agnostic.

    Your fridge (without freezer) would have to use 240 kWh/year for it to make ecological sense to get a new one within the next 10 years. For a fridge-freezer combination it would have to be 340 kWh and for a freezer 430 kWh. From what I saw on this beautiful (also German, but it's basically a huge table anyway) page it depends more on the type of fridge you have, not really the age. Side-by-side fridges seem to be especially bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    it depends more on the type of fridge you have, not really the age. Side-by-side fridges seem to be especially bad.

    I have a chest fridge (91 kWh/year) and chest freezer (142 kWh) for that reason, they use less power than the equivalent volume of upright fridge+freezer combination. (To preempt any dad jokes: I don't store chests in them, and they don't cost an arm and a leg).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Are the dumb fridges made today as reliable as the 20-year-old one? My gut says no. I suspect I'd need to replace it much sooner, like right after the warranty ends, killing whatever small gains I got from greater efficiency. It's not like they don't use electricity at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I don't think any but the most expensive fridges had ice makers when we were looking for a new one a year or so ago. Is it more of an American feature? It seems so pointless. How much do you use ice to need it in your fridge door.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    It is kind of an American thing ... as is using lots of ice.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child)

    I only really use ice with rum and cola or gin and lemonade, what else do you use it for in America to need so much?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago*

    Some people put ice in every drink, even if it is already cold. Keeps it cold longer.

    Though, lots of people have the attitude that everything needs to do everything with zero consideration for negatives. 'I might need ice', therefore, they buy the one with the ice maker.

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