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[–] 106 points 3 days ago (6 children)

its even funnier when you realise american taxpayers pay for israels universal healthcare

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  • [–] 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    It's even funnier/darker when you realize that conservatives and neoliberals have been trying to defund and destroy universal healthcare for multiple decades in every single country.

    It's so evidently successful to the average citizen that decades of big money propaganda focused on it's destruction has failed.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Several conservative governments in Australia have considered ditching it, but they also wanted to get reelected. All the non-conservative politicians had to do was point at the US as an example of what would happen if it was dropped and the conservatives ditched the ditching.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    They should try gerrymandering, election rigging, and voter disenfranchisement after fucking their constituency to combat that reelection problem, works a charm in the US

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago

    Thankfully we have an independent organisation that sets electoral boundaries and administers elections (the Australian Electoral Commission) as well as mandatory voting (including imprisoned populations), so that shit isn’t really a viable option here. We have our issues, to be sure, but those pillars of our democracy have been strong for a long time. It’s part of the reason why it took so damn long for a right-wing populist party to gain real significance, and they’ve not yet been properly tested electorally so we don’t even know if the polls will deliver them a decent amount of seats, let alone a chance at government.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    And Universal Healthcare would be cheaper for everyone than what we have now. Because we actually do kinda have it in the dumbest, most-expensive way possible.

    Hospitals don't just watch you die if you can't afford to pay. They still treat you. It just puts you into crippling debt while everyone else pays more. With Universal healthcare, everybody would pitch in like they already do, and nobody would go into debt over it.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    You pay for it multiple times in this system.

    1. You pay the government to fund medicare (even if you're ineligible; which is fine, except that everyone should be eligible because healthcare should be treated as a public good and made universal).
    2. You pay your insurance company for your healthcare policy (often multiple policies because they don't offer it all-in-one: vision and hearing is a separate policy; dental is a separate policy; often mental health is a separate policy; and sometimes even primary care, emergency care, and prescriptions are all separate policies).
    3. You pay the healthcare provider when you receive treatment, because it either isn't covered, or your claim gets denied, or you haven't reached your deductible yet, or the copay is high.
    4. Sometimes you even have to reimburse your insurance company, despite paying for your treatment out of pocket, because your insurance company decided to say fuck you and they have more expensive lawyers than you do.

    Like, just cut out the middle-man. The only reason healthcare is even as expensive as it is here is because providers know they can bill insurance out they ass anyway. A single-payer healthcare system where the government pays the bill enables the health department to negotiate reasonable price caps, and will save the taxpayers money in the end. It'll also save the treasury money, and most importantly, it'll save the patients from crippling debt.

    The only one who would get screwed is the predatory insurance industry which shouldn't exist anyway. Oh and the privately-owned, for-profit healthcare model. The actual medical personnel will be fine though. Arguably better off, because it gets greedy investor decisions out of their human resources departments.

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