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[–] 122 points 4 days ago (82 children)

The far right criticises the Dems as much as the left.

You 100% have to make it clear where the critique comes from.

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  • [–] 37 points 4 days ago (51 children)

    Criticism is not evaluated by where it comes from, but by whether it's true or false. If you don't put truth first, you don't get to have a say in anything anyway.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 days ago (17 children)

    The source does matter. I won't support a MAGAt just because they bash the Dems.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 days ago* (12 children)

    Motivation and context matters because if you don't pay attention to them you risk ending up an accessory to some asshole's motte-and-bailey fallacy in progress.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    You are now stating that the argument is not good, but in fact a fallacy. You are thus yourself, ironically, doing the fallacy you are talking about others doing. You have moved from the position of "dont engage with good arguments or criticism of they come from a republican" and are now pretending your position is "don't engage with bad arguments from republicans."

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  • [–] 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Doesn't matter, you get accused of being undercover MAGA anyway. Been there, done that.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Yeah any critique of Democrats get you called either a Russian shill, a bot or an undercover republican. Point out that Obama did fuck all about the Supreme Court or Clinton wrote the crime bill and that apparently means you love Trump.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    And taking into account that Obama and a lot of other dems just chilled up with Trump and a lot of reps in the Island™, it's to know that most dems aren't good either. They both just want more power and all of your money.

    Edit for the ones that downvoted me (just bc why not?): anarchy goes brrr, long life to anarchism.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Yes, this screenshot is just another “If you don’t understand my unqualified opinion you’re just too stupid to figure it out” hot take by someone thinking they’re the smartest person in the room.

    No, criticizing the dems doesn’t automatically mean criticism of anyone to the right of them.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Would depend on the content of the critique Id think, like, if your criticism of the dems is that theyre far too conservative, thats not the sort of thing that someone that considers conservatism a good thing would say. If you give some vague attack on their moral character or intelligence or such, that lines up more with how the right would also criticism them, and therefore invites more confusion.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    Hence why I said that your criticism should make it obvious where you stand.

    I'm not saying that you need to put "fuck the GOP too" next to every criticism. But if all you say is "fuck the Dems for ruining the country", it's not obvious where you stand.

    "Fuck the Dems for being too conservative" on the other hand makes it obvious.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 days ago*

    The primary difference is that Republicunts completely discount any thing that is left wing as impossible to achieve, often by using circular logic that boils down to a faulty appeal to authority (religion), with a light sprinkling of racism and white superiority rhetoric mixed in.

    Leftists actually use verifiable data points and publically available economic figures mixed with objective reasoning to levy their critiques.

    Reading comprehension includes understanding the implied context of the words, not just being able to pronounce them properly.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago (6 children)

    It's easy to tell as the right's criticism is they eat babies, they're demon spawn, welfare queens, nothing true just emotionally applied rhetoric. Where as the left would say they're barely better than Republicans in regards to wars and keeping them going in perpetuity, they could pass universal healthcare instead of what the ACA was but through either naivety or incompetence reached out to Republicans to help make a plan "both parties would be happy with" for the Republicans not to vote for it at all.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 days ago

    Eh, universal healthcare got side shuffled by the insurance company consultants and thus got us the ACA, a compromised deal if ever there was one. We really need universal healthcare, but the Herbalife grifters wouldn’t then have as much ways to peddle their MLM.

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