For whatever reason I've never been a huge chatroom person, but the recently renewed conversation over Discord's identity verification system has got me thinking once again about free, open, and community-run alternatives--with Matrix being the one that I think stands out the most.

For those who aren't familiar, for better or worse Matrix isn't a 1:1 clone of Discord (like you mostly see with Stoat or Fluxer), but an open protocol for federated messaging and voice chat. Instead of a centralized service run by any one company or group, Matrix is a lot like email or "the fediverse": a network of different servers, run by different people, communicating with each other using a single protocol and visualized through various apps (like Element or FluffyChat).

But for as much as Matrix feels like the fediverse in spirit, to me it also feels very separate from the fediverse, like it's not a part of the "same conversation", so to speak. The ethos is similar. The background is similar. The mission is similar. But, despite that, I feel like I don't see as much overlap between fediverse communities and matrix communities as I would expect.

Maybe it's purely because of the near-ubiquity of Reddit and Discord in modern net culture, but it seems pretty common to see Reddit communities that advertise links to Discord communities. Whereas it seems a lot more rare for "threadiverse" communities to advertise links to Matrix communities. Which leads me to my question...

What do you all think of Matrix?

Have you been aware of it? Have you tried it?

Are you an active Discord user? Are you an active Matrix user? If so, what do you like/dislike about it? If not, why not?

Broadly speaking, do you think there is value in what Matrix is doing? How do you see it fitting in with the rest of the Fediverse?

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[–] 2 points 4 days ago (1 child)

I'm aware that it exists but I don't know how to use it, or really why I'd want to. The few times I've tried to check it out, I've run into a sign up wall before I could see anything. (Why the fuck would I want to register on a server to chat when I have no idea who's on it or what they're even chatting about there!?) On top of that, there's the complications of federated software -- which server? which client? etc -- and the comparisons to Discord (which I dislike) really don't help either...

My impression of it so far is that I'd rather people just post here for anything that's supposed to be public.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago

    I think the point of matrix is that it's not supposed to be public. The use case is more like slack.

    Discord is also structured like that, and IMO many people are using discord for conversations that should mostly be public (e.g. support forums), which sucks. But there are also plenty of valid uses for private communities.

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