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Too many people I know are like this (europe.pub)
submitted 2 days ago by to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca
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[–] -3 points 2 days ago (6 children)

In other words: you are so far into left ideology that you absolutely refuse to use the capitalist tools. Boycott is effective of course but the problem is people interested enough in shits companies do are generally the one on the far left with your mentality.

So those that believe in the effect of "voting with your money" don't use it because, in their ideology, companies are the good guys. And those that don't believe in it don't bother changing because by definition they can't believe it.

Kind of all my far left friends which are now getting rich and investing in etf of very big companies. The same they despise.

If only people could get out of ideology, we could have actual solutions

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    What a crock of shit! I don’t care if people boycott but I certainly hope they have an understanding of how ineffective that could be.

    There needs to be regulatory change. AWS and Azure have an outsized influence on the modern internet and technology sector because of how massive and widespread they are. Roughly 8% of all global internet traffic runs through AWS, Azure and Google Cloud services. You can toss Cloudflare in there too.

    What I’m saying is that we need to have our representatives at a political/governmental level actually represent the people and it needs to happen globally.

    Look at the improvements driven by regulatory change in the EU and imagine if that regulatory change effectively happened at a global level.

    For Amazon specifically look at what Mandan is doing to hold them accountable in New York City.

    Boycotts generally hurt a companies reputation more than their bottom line financially, but when dealing with a company that doesn’t care about their reputation or ones owned by billionaires that also own news media and/or social media platforms, they shape the narrative to their own benefit.

    What is your agenda in arguing for boycotts and against regulatory change?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I don’t care if people boycott but I certainly hope they have an understanding of how ineffective that could be.

    Boycotts can be extremely effective if enough people get on board.

    Witness the pain the USA's tourism industry is facing due to the Canadian boycott. Or the US liquor industry due to that same boycott.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    OP was saying how it's fine to boycott but the real issue is division being sewn. And then you go ahead and try to divide us by misrepresenting what they were saying lol.

    Thanks for proving their point ig

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago

    Yes sure I prove this point. Is that right that division is the problem though or is the way we act?

    I'm all for being friendly and tbh I regret the way I expressed my message on that matter. But we cannot continue to say everybody is doing and fine and only a small group is responsible. If division is what it cost to change the whole population so be it. I only refrain division with relatives and coworkers (except of course those that like engaged didcussion). But division inside a nation or in the world is necessary if we hope to change.

    Population that are very very similar in opinion it looks to me are the population we find in authoritarian country, not democracies

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