▲ 20 ▼ Crop outputs grew up to 100% in China’s big agricultural experiment: scientists (www.scmp.com) submitted 3 days ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/science@lemmy.ml 8 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] The_v@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (7 children) BULLSHIT! That about sums up that article. permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 6 points 2 days ago* (6 children) 'daww look at you malding, it's so adorable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (2 children) I haven't read the paper but the article smells of bullshit. Extraordinary and unsubstantiated claims in one field (H-bond changing because of a manganese cluster and sunlight???), popping up during research in some other, barely related field, suggests to me that either SCMP journalists made insane shit up again (as they often do with popsci articles) or the original paper didn't have any chemists peer review it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) you can read the paper here https://cjournal.hep.com.cn/1005-2321/CN/10.13745/j.esf.sf.2024.12.122 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago There is a lot of marketing speek and my translation isn't the best, but here is some content as I understood it. Claims photosynthesis outside the chloroplast. Claims improvement mineral content (do they mean uptake?), including minerals that have nothing to do with their infusions. Claims improvements but don't have a control group. Claims something with infrared light but don't have a spectrum. All we can conclude from that, is that they watered some plant during a historically hot year and they grew. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (2 children) Seriously, this reads like homeopathy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) The proposed mechanism: minerals absorb broader wavelengths of sunlight and convert them into energy that alters water’s physical properties, including hydrogen-bond structure, making water easier to split during photosynthesis. [...] In the field method described by the team, mineral powder was added to ordinary irrigation water at about 0.5 per cent, stirred under sunlight for one hour and then allowed to settle, with the clear water above the settled materials then used for irrigation. Because the minerals did not dissolve in the water, the materials at the bottom could be reused, they said. It's just homeopathy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] blackbrook@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 days ago Definitely sounds like it's leveraging some water memory ideas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 6 points 2 days ago* (6 children) 'daww look at you malding, it's so adorable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (2 children) I haven't read the paper but the article smells of bullshit. Extraordinary and unsubstantiated claims in one field (H-bond changing because of a manganese cluster and sunlight???), popping up during research in some other, barely related field, suggests to me that either SCMP journalists made insane shit up again (as they often do with popsci articles) or the original paper didn't have any chemists peer review it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) you can read the paper here https://cjournal.hep.com.cn/1005-2321/CN/10.13745/j.esf.sf.2024.12.122 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago There is a lot of marketing speek and my translation isn't the best, but here is some content as I understood it. Claims photosynthesis outside the chloroplast. Claims improvement mineral content (do they mean uptake?), including minerals that have nothing to do with their infusions. Claims improvements but don't have a control group. Claims something with infrared light but don't have a spectrum. All we can conclude from that, is that they watered some plant during a historically hot year and they grew. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (2 children) Seriously, this reads like homeopathy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) The proposed mechanism: minerals absorb broader wavelengths of sunlight and convert them into energy that alters water’s physical properties, including hydrogen-bond structure, making water easier to split during photosynthesis. [...] In the field method described by the team, mineral powder was added to ordinary irrigation water at about 0.5 per cent, stirred under sunlight for one hour and then allowed to settle, with the clear water above the settled materials then used for irrigation. Because the minerals did not dissolve in the water, the materials at the bottom could be reused, they said. It's just homeopathy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] blackbrook@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 days ago Definitely sounds like it's leveraging some water memory ideas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (2 children) I haven't read the paper but the article smells of bullshit. Extraordinary and unsubstantiated claims in one field (H-bond changing because of a manganese cluster and sunlight???), popping up during research in some other, barely related field, suggests to me that either SCMP journalists made insane shit up again (as they often do with popsci articles) or the original paper didn't have any chemists peer review it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) you can read the paper here https://cjournal.hep.com.cn/1005-2321/CN/10.13745/j.esf.sf.2024.12.122 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago There is a lot of marketing speek and my translation isn't the best, but here is some content as I understood it. Claims photosynthesis outside the chloroplast. Claims improvement mineral content (do they mean uptake?), including minerals that have nothing to do with their infusions. Claims improvements but don't have a control group. Claims something with infrared light but don't have a spectrum. All we can conclude from that, is that they watered some plant during a historically hot year and they grew. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) you can read the paper here https://cjournal.hep.com.cn/1005-2321/CN/10.13745/j.esf.sf.2024.12.122 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago There is a lot of marketing speek and my translation isn't the best, but here is some content as I understood it. Claims photosynthesis outside the chloroplast. Claims improvement mineral content (do they mean uptake?), including minerals that have nothing to do with their infusions. Claims improvements but don't have a control group. Claims something with infrared light but don't have a spectrum. All we can conclude from that, is that they watered some plant during a historically hot year and they grew. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago There is a lot of marketing speek and my translation isn't the best, but here is some content as I understood it. Claims photosynthesis outside the chloroplast. Claims improvement mineral content (do they mean uptake?), including minerals that have nothing to do with their infusions. Claims improvements but don't have a control group. Claims something with infrared light but don't have a spectrum. All we can conclude from that, is that they watered some plant during a historically hot year and they grew. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (2 children) Seriously, this reads like homeopathy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) The proposed mechanism: minerals absorb broader wavelengths of sunlight and convert them into energy that alters water’s physical properties, including hydrogen-bond structure, making water easier to split during photosynthesis. [...] In the field method described by the team, mineral powder was added to ordinary irrigation water at about 0.5 per cent, stirred under sunlight for one hour and then allowed to settle, with the clear water above the settled materials then used for irrigation. Because the minerals did not dissolve in the water, the materials at the bottom could be reused, they said. It's just homeopathy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] blackbrook@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 days ago Definitely sounds like it's leveraging some water memory ideas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) The proposed mechanism: minerals absorb broader wavelengths of sunlight and convert them into energy that alters water’s physical properties, including hydrogen-bond structure, making water easier to split during photosynthesis. [...] In the field method described by the team, mineral powder was added to ordinary irrigation water at about 0.5 per cent, stirred under sunlight for one hour and then allowed to settle, with the clear water above the settled materials then used for irrigation. Because the minerals did not dissolve in the water, the materials at the bottom could be reused, they said. It's just homeopathy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] blackbrook@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 days ago Definitely sounds like it's leveraging some water memory ideas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blackbrook@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 days ago Definitely sounds like it's leveraging some water memory ideas. permalink fedilink source parent