Pike survived a lethal injection execution on Wednesday. She was sentenced to death for the 1995 killing of her classmate, Colleen Slemmer.

Christa Pike, the woman who survived an execution attempt in Tennessee earlier this week, is on a ventilator as she receives care in the hospital, her lawyers said in a new statement Friday.

“Christa remains critically ill and is receiving medical care for the devastating effects of Wednesday night’s events,” the lawyers’ statement said. “She is critically ill, unconscious, intubated and receiving breathing assistance through a ventilator.”

The statement said she is being treated for “the serious effects of the pentobarbital administered during the execution attempt, including significant injuries to both arms.”

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[–] -4 points 9 hours ago (21 children)

The only time I can agree with the death sentence is if the subject of it has proven to be 1, incorrigible and guaranteed to repeat offend 2, have an offence so vile that they cannot be risked a release into the public, either intentionally or accidentally 3, whose guilt has been established in irrefutable manner.

Think absolute menace serial killer psychos. Child rapists.

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  • [–] 25 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

    This comment implies the motivation is to protect the public from particularly dangerous offenders.

    Life in prison without the possibility of parole is similarly protective.

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  • [+] -13 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    No it isn't - see "accidental" (unintentional) release.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

    So the incompetence of prisons is what makes you in favor of executing people?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 hours ago

    No. The possibility of a murderer, who tortures and kills people for fun, escaping and torturing and murdering even more people makes me to consider it for the worst of the worst.

    99.999% of all incarcerated can be rehabilitated - sure, some might never understand why it was wrong to kill, but at the very least you can get to a point where they won't do it again - given the appropriate treatment and effort.

    It's the remaining 0.001% - the once a decade psychopaths, the Dahmers, the Lecters, and so on - whom are not rehabilitable, whom cannot even be in a regular prison, who require isolation and constant watch, who cannot be allowed even the chance of escaping.

    Why? Because I value the multitudes of lives of the potential victims over the singular life of someone who clearly doesn't care about others'.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 hours ago (15 children)

    guilt has been established in irrefutable manner

    Since this is impossible, I'm firmly against the death penalty.

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  • [+] -9 points 9 hours ago (14 children)

    No it isn't impossible.

    Objective, irrefutable evidence exists. Video recordings that clearly show one's face, with further supporting evidence to ensure its not mistaken identity.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 hours ago (10 children)

    How do you prove the video hasn't been tampered with?

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  • [+] -9 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

    Forensic analysis can already do that. Yes, even AI tampering can be proven.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago

    I feels like you're missing the point. There's a tons of cases where innocent people get prison time despite no hard proof on them(via coercion or the lack of alibi), then there's guilty people who hired a gang of lawyers to throw out hard evidence one by one(by finding every minor mistake by the prosecutor). It's incredibly hard to proof people are beyond reasonable doubt that they should be executed, especially when the guilty can just play innocent.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    For now. At this point, it doesn't matter much if the AI economic bubble collapses, research will continue, potentially at a lesser pace, and could still outpace, even if temporarily, detection methods.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    Yeah, uh, no.

    It might avoid free eye detection (still doesn't, AI content is still incredibly easy to spot), but FORENSIC analysis is a bit more thorough than that.

    Though I really love these kinds of comments. I at least used to work in the field some 15 years ago, so I have some awareness of what's going on. Meanwhile the group of people here who saw flashy AI demos and two-three episodes of CSI think they know best.

    For example, here's a fun fact: camera sensor pixels aren't equal. Even on the same sensor, there's a subtle level of difference in sensitivity between pixels, pixel blocks, and so on. The built in ISP also has its own unique signature. Hell, there's even a unique signature in the variations of the variance between key frames! All of which can be extracted - much like a hash - but would take immense computational power (we're talking quantum computing levels, since it IS essentially reversing a hash or cryptographic key) to properly break.

    This kind of fingerprinting alone could verify if a video was tampered with nor not. There's been whitepapers about this kind of verification since at least 2012. Yet I bet none of you who oh so confidently downvote, knew about it.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Ask a forensic analyst? I am not one so my knowledge of it is cursory at best.

    However recent hardware now includes hardware level attestation in the image files that cannot be reproduced, so validity of video and photo evidence can NOW be established easily. If the signature is there, easy, the video wasn't manipulated. If it is missing, the evidence is no longer attested, therefore questionable.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    Where is the line between "objective and irrefutable" and "room for reasonable doubt"?

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  • [–] -2 points 8 hours ago

    Where is it today?

    If there's no contradictory evidence, then there's no room for doubt. At that point it is up to the jury to make the decision - including if the death penalty should be applied, if the person truly poses a danger to society justifying their death.

    Again, in my opinion, the death penalty is 99% antiquated. The only time it is ever justified if the person's existence in itself poses a threat to the public. A simple murder, no matter how grievous, like this case, is definitely not death penalty worthy. The likes of John Wayne Gacy, or Jeffrey Dahmer. Of whom there's maybe one every decade or so.

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