▲ 546 ▼ Data Centers Are Hiding How Much Water and Power They Consume (www.gadgetreview.com) submitted 1 week ago by Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club to c/technology@lemmy.world 35 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Toasticus@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (6 children) Damn, Coca Cola is consuming all of our water, soon we will have nothing left to drink. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Frettchen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (5 children) ? If you mean this funny there is nothing funny about it. For now we have enough and do not need to buy coca cola. What if they have a brand kitchen water so you can rinse you veggies. We can not imagine water shortages but this will soon be a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) If Coca Cola didn't turn 2800 million litres of water into soda, people would drink that 2800 million litres of water in some other form anyway. Same goes for any company that creates drinks of any kind, it isn't "consumed" in the process. If water ever truly can be, it always evaporates and rains down somewhere. And depending on where you live versus where it's bottled, not doing so might in fact be rather disastrous. In many densely populated areas of the world the scarcity of fresh water is cause by the water cycle not being balanced - water is gathered from vast area and piped to a city, but when it is "consumed" and returns to the water cycle, it doesn't rain back to those collection areas. Like for example, most of the entire west of the United States. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Frettchen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago Now think of when there is no choice. How much do you think that soda gets? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (2 children) I remember looking into this years ago, desalination is a reasonable solution (for houshold usage in developed nations) at only a few times the ridiculously low water cost we have now. Agriculture is the issue because it currently depends on insane amounts of cheap water dispite there being more water efficient methods of growing crops (indoor hydroponics). first result https://hannahritchie.substack.com/p/how-much-energy-does-desalinisation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Desalinisation is not an ideal solution. That hypersalinated waste water gets pumped back into the ecosystem, and it does incalculable damage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago Which is mostly an issue because dealing with the brine inadequately is way cheaper than doing so properly. It's much easier to just dump the concentrated sludge back mostly as is than it is to build the necessary infrastructure to dilute and distribute it safely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] razen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 child) Just fuck nestle for existing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago Without water-based lube of course! permalink fedilink source parent [–] jdr@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago What is this showing? permalink fedilink source parent [–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago It's less than a spoon for each request. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (6 children) Damn, Coca Cola is consuming all of our water, soon we will have nothing left to drink. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Frettchen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (5 children) ? If you mean this funny there is nothing funny about it. For now we have enough and do not need to buy coca cola. What if they have a brand kitchen water so you can rinse you veggies. We can not imagine water shortages but this will soon be a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) If Coca Cola didn't turn 2800 million litres of water into soda, people would drink that 2800 million litres of water in some other form anyway. Same goes for any company that creates drinks of any kind, it isn't "consumed" in the process. If water ever truly can be, it always evaporates and rains down somewhere. And depending on where you live versus where it's bottled, not doing so might in fact be rather disastrous. In many densely populated areas of the world the scarcity of fresh water is cause by the water cycle not being balanced - water is gathered from vast area and piped to a city, but when it is "consumed" and returns to the water cycle, it doesn't rain back to those collection areas. Like for example, most of the entire west of the United States. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Frettchen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago Now think of when there is no choice. How much do you think that soda gets? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (2 children) I remember looking into this years ago, desalination is a reasonable solution (for houshold usage in developed nations) at only a few times the ridiculously low water cost we have now. Agriculture is the issue because it currently depends on insane amounts of cheap water dispite there being more water efficient methods of growing crops (indoor hydroponics). first result https://hannahritchie.substack.com/p/how-much-energy-does-desalinisation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Desalinisation is not an ideal solution. That hypersalinated waste water gets pumped back into the ecosystem, and it does incalculable damage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago Which is mostly an issue because dealing with the brine inadequately is way cheaper than doing so properly. It's much easier to just dump the concentrated sludge back mostly as is than it is to build the necessary infrastructure to dilute and distribute it safely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frettchen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (5 children) ? If you mean this funny there is nothing funny about it. For now we have enough and do not need to buy coca cola. What if they have a brand kitchen water so you can rinse you veggies. We can not imagine water shortages but this will soon be a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) If Coca Cola didn't turn 2800 million litres of water into soda, people would drink that 2800 million litres of water in some other form anyway. Same goes for any company that creates drinks of any kind, it isn't "consumed" in the process. If water ever truly can be, it always evaporates and rains down somewhere. And depending on where you live versus where it's bottled, not doing so might in fact be rather disastrous. In many densely populated areas of the world the scarcity of fresh water is cause by the water cycle not being balanced - water is gathered from vast area and piped to a city, but when it is "consumed" and returns to the water cycle, it doesn't rain back to those collection areas. Like for example, most of the entire west of the United States. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Frettchen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago Now think of when there is no choice. How much do you think that soda gets? permalink fedilink source parent [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (2 children) I remember looking into this years ago, desalination is a reasonable solution (for houshold usage in developed nations) at only a few times the ridiculously low water cost we have now. Agriculture is the issue because it currently depends on insane amounts of cheap water dispite there being more water efficient methods of growing crops (indoor hydroponics). first result https://hannahritchie.substack.com/p/how-much-energy-does-desalinisation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Desalinisation is not an ideal solution. That hypersalinated waste water gets pumped back into the ecosystem, and it does incalculable damage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago Which is mostly an issue because dealing with the brine inadequately is way cheaper than doing so properly. It's much easier to just dump the concentrated sludge back mostly as is than it is to build the necessary infrastructure to dilute and distribute it safely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (1 child) If Coca Cola didn't turn 2800 million litres of water into soda, people would drink that 2800 million litres of water in some other form anyway. Same goes for any company that creates drinks of any kind, it isn't "consumed" in the process. If water ever truly can be, it always evaporates and rains down somewhere. And depending on where you live versus where it's bottled, not doing so might in fact be rather disastrous. In many densely populated areas of the world the scarcity of fresh water is cause by the water cycle not being balanced - water is gathered from vast area and piped to a city, but when it is "consumed" and returns to the water cycle, it doesn't rain back to those collection areas. Like for example, most of the entire west of the United States. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Frettchen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago Now think of when there is no choice. How much do you think that soda gets? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frettchen@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago Now think of when there is no choice. How much do you think that soda gets? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (2 children) I remember looking into this years ago, desalination is a reasonable solution (for houshold usage in developed nations) at only a few times the ridiculously low water cost we have now. Agriculture is the issue because it currently depends on insane amounts of cheap water dispite there being more water efficient methods of growing crops (indoor hydroponics). first result https://hannahritchie.substack.com/p/how-much-energy-does-desalinisation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Desalinisation is not an ideal solution. That hypersalinated waste water gets pumped back into the ecosystem, and it does incalculable damage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago Which is mostly an issue because dealing with the brine inadequately is way cheaper than doing so properly. It's much easier to just dump the concentrated sludge back mostly as is than it is to build the necessary infrastructure to dilute and distribute it safely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Desalinisation is not an ideal solution. That hypersalinated waste water gets pumped back into the ecosystem, and it does incalculable damage permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago Which is mostly an issue because dealing with the brine inadequately is way cheaper than doing so properly. It's much easier to just dump the concentrated sludge back mostly as is than it is to build the necessary infrastructure to dilute and distribute it safely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago Which is mostly an issue because dealing with the brine inadequately is way cheaper than doing so properly. It's much easier to just dump the concentrated sludge back mostly as is than it is to build the necessary infrastructure to dilute and distribute it safely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] razen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 child) Just fuck nestle for existing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago Without water-based lube of course! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] durably465@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago Without water-based lube of course! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago It's less than a spoon for each request. permalink fedilink source parent