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[–] 21 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, I've noticed a real problem on here with that. Claiming neurodivergency for something that some people do and some people don't.

This is a trait that some people have. Some people do it more and some do it less. If it's combined with many other symptoms and it makes it difficult for someone to function in society then it might be grounds for a diagnosis.

I think things like this are also just representative of a general shift in society. There's a lot more education online and elsewhere about the power dynamics in society that might have been ignored or not understood in the past. So this behavior is more prevalent which coincides with an increase in neurodivergency even though those two things aren't actually correlated.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I don't think it's necessarily "a problem on here", I think this type of assertion is just part of exploring neurodivergency.

    Does something really need to make it difficult for someone to function in society in order to be part of a diagnosis? That seems unlikely.

    I disagree that this is an "intelligent / ethical person thing", although I don't really believe that intelligence and ethics is really measurable in that way.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago

    Yes. It does need to make it difficult to function. That's one of the core criteria for most diagnoses in the DSM. "Neurodivergency" as a meme and - I guess you can call it a subculture? - on the internet is wholly misunderstood.

    It's really hard to categorize neurodivergency. Particularly in contrast to being "neurotypical". There isn't an "average human" that they compare people to on a chart and say "yep, you're not up to this standard" gavel bang "autism".

    I mean, just think about it. If more than 50% of people exhibited this trait in one way or another, this behavior suddenly becomes neurotypical, since the "typical" person possesses this trait.

    But the problem with this, just like your problem with intelligence and ethics is that it's all impossible to measure. Behaviors like this exist on a spectrum. This is part of my problem with this aspect of the subculture and posts like this. This behavior happens in "neurotypicals" as well. Autism isn't a switch flipped in your brain that suddenly gives you special traits that neurotypical people don't have. Autism is a diagnosis that happens when a person has a defined constellation of traits that are generally correlated and one or more of which are making it difficult to function.

    I saw another post recently that went something like "neurotypicals don't understand having to take a day off after social events" and "neurotypicals don't rehearse social interactions in their head". Which is simply untrue. Many many people take a rest day after a social event or think about how to handle a social interaction, the only difference that the behavior isn't so severe that they are functionally impaired by it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Being that literal about a meme is something not all autistic folks do, and some allistic folks do, but it is still an autism trait. Like the rules thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    I feel like you grasped a straw here and it really didn't work. Even if I can parse out the point you're trying to make, it still just affirms my point? But I'm not sure I even got what you were trying to say.

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