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Tankies hate this one weird trick (europe.pub)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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I don't like spending this much time arguing against campism but they just keep talking at me.

A picture of Gus Friv captioned "I'm cool with communism because I don't believe it has to be authoritarian; you're cool with communism because you don't mind if its authoritarian; we are not the same."
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[–] 30 points 2 days ago (9 children)

For tankies, communism must be authoritarian, and the worst tankies will just prefer even actual fascism to "childish naivety of democracy". Technically tankies are just the leftist version of your right-wing grandpa trying to convince you to finally grow out of leftism, except they're overtly obsessed with "On authority" by Friedrich Engels.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I hate being told I'm not socialist for wanting coöperative ownership and a coöp commonwealth economy, but that they are real the "real" socialists when they just want state owned corporations.

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  • [–] 1 point 19 hours ago*

    Because then the workers are just owned by capital when the point of the economy is still to create exchange value.

    What happens then is the coops that pay their workers less will amass more capital than the ones that have better working conditions and push the better ones out of the market. When the goal is to generate profit, then a company that is privately owned by a capitalist class is the most efficient at doing that.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

    the leftist version

    Are they leftists, though? They call themselves leftists, sure, but if it walks like a duck...

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  • [–] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Yeah. I dont know exactly what I would call them but the German "far"-"left" splinter party BSW just supported the actually far-right party AFD in voting for the first far-right state governor since the Nazi era... that's not exactly behavior that anybody would seriously consider left.

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