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Tankies hate this one weird trick (europe.pub)
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I don't like spending this much time arguing against campism but they just keep talking at me.

A picture of Gus Friv captioned "I'm cool with communism because I don't believe it has to be authoritarian; you're cool with communism because you don't mind if its authoritarian; we are not the same."
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[–] 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

an ideal democracy would be a democracy where the people have power, as opposed to one where money rules. such is the case in the fake 'democracies' under capitalism. it's not just america and it's nothing to do with humans needing to be 'good natured'.

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    The problem is "the people" in a democracy literally just amounts to "the majority", and would thus favor the average and the interests thereof over the interests of underprivileged minorities. Can we count on the average person to be concerned about the well being of those who lack the collective power they enjoy? As of now, I would say definitely not.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    i don't think that rich people are inherently better any respecting the rights of minorities.

    the current system demonstrably does not protect minorities either.

    also the current system actively manufactures consent through media ownership and economic coercion. capital owners play a major role in that process.

    what looks like majority opinion is often manufactured preference serving capital. a democracy where people had actual material security and genuine information might produce very different majorities.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    i don’t think that rich people are inherently better any respecting the rights of minorities.

    I didn't say that though, so how about you go have this imaginary argument with someone else.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    an ideal democracy would be a democracy where the people have power, as opposed to one where money rules.

    The problem is “the people” in a democracy literally just amounts to “the majority”, and would thus favor the average and the interests thereof over the interests of underprivileged minorities.

    the way i read your point was 'the elites protect minorities from the mob' as a defense of the current system.

    do you have some alternative vision?

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