▲ 664 ▼ Ukraine's Zelenskyy Claims Strikes on Russian Data Centers Silenced Social Media Bots (gizmodo.com) submitted 1 week ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 130 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (11 children) Why not link to the source? https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/data-centers/russian-disinformation-bot-traffic-nearly-eliminated-overnight-after-ukraine-drone-strikes-cripple-multiple-of-russias-google-data-centers-ukraine-intensifies-bombing-of-yandex-data-centers-in-response-to-moscows-strikes-on-kyiv-data-centers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nl 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Tomshardware doesn't show twitter account changes it talks about cloudflare traffic and expert opinions but thelondoneconimoc has a better article on the effects on e.g. Reform’s twitter. Edit: Here’s a quote from my above source Take Richard Tice for example. Below are three posts on X from the Reform deputy leader to his almost 400,000 followers on Monday, 11 October. At the time of writing, none of the posts had hit triple figures for reposts or comments, with one not even reaching 10,000 views. {...} Before the Ukrainian strikes on the Russia data centres, Tice’s posts got considerably more engagement, consistently hitting triple figures for comments and reposts, whilst racking up hundreds of thousands of views. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] A_A@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago* typo : "thelondoneconimoc" (( thanks for many nice and well documented comments )) permalink fedilink source parent [–] dfyx@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children) Which gives exactly no evidence of a decline in social media bots. If you actually click the source link in the article, you see that the graph shows the bot traffic from "AS13238 YANDEX — Yandex LLC", not the internet overall. That caption was conveniently cropped. Also, those bots are very likely not the kind that post on twitter but web crawlers. Yandex is a search engine. Of course destroying its data centers stops the web crawlers running in those data centers from indexing sites. I have yet to see an actual statistic of the amount political social media posts or active users on social media sites changing in any way. Edit: claiming that this attack has destroyed the bot farms and giving mislabeled graphs as sources is actively harmful because it leads people to believe that everything that is left must be "real people" when it's very likely that pretty much all of the bots are still active. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago It doesn't matter. People have already made up their minds, facts are irrelevant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlindPenguin@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yandex also offers Cloud Services. Just saying... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dfyx@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Okay, good. Now show me the statistics that show that there are actually fewer bots than last week. Don't get me wrong, I desperately want these news to be true. But so far every single article I've seen links back (directly or indirectly) to that one CloudFlare chart that doesn't say what people think it says. Some point to a few individual posts that didn't get many interactions. But as far as I'm aware nobody has made the effort to check if there is an actual widespread difference and which topics it affects. Right now this all seems like confirmation bias and wishful thinking. And again, I get it. We need good news now more than ever. But the only thing worse than no good news is good news that just isn't true and leads to us letting our guard down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BlindPenguin@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago Oh, i'm with you, don't worry. Just wanted to note that. Yandex has several datacenters, so for a really noticeable drop they'd need to wipe several of them. Though, they might have some more spread around the world... permalink fedilink source parent [–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago That's why asked, because the cited source doesn't make the same claims. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (2 children) https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9y7l0pm8jkko Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dihutenosa@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) Hmmm, it seems more strikes are needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago Libs gonna lib, hey? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nl 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Tomshardware doesn't show twitter account changes it talks about cloudflare traffic and expert opinions but thelondoneconimoc has a better article on the effects on e.g. Reform’s twitter. Edit: Here’s a quote from my above source Take Richard Tice for example. Below are three posts on X from the Reform deputy leader to his almost 400,000 followers on Monday, 11 October. At the time of writing, none of the posts had hit triple figures for reposts or comments, with one not even reaching 10,000 views. {...} Before the Ukrainian strikes on the Russia data centres, Tice’s posts got considerably more engagement, consistently hitting triple figures for comments and reposts, whilst racking up hundreds of thousands of views. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] A_A@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago* typo : "thelondoneconimoc" (( thanks for many nice and well documented comments )) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_A@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago* typo : "thelondoneconimoc" (( thanks for many nice and well documented comments )) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dfyx@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children) Which gives exactly no evidence of a decline in social media bots. If you actually click the source link in the article, you see that the graph shows the bot traffic from "AS13238 YANDEX — Yandex LLC", not the internet overall. That caption was conveniently cropped. Also, those bots are very likely not the kind that post on twitter but web crawlers. Yandex is a search engine. Of course destroying its data centers stops the web crawlers running in those data centers from indexing sites. I have yet to see an actual statistic of the amount political social media posts or active users on social media sites changing in any way. Edit: claiming that this attack has destroyed the bot farms and giving mislabeled graphs as sources is actively harmful because it leads people to believe that everything that is left must be "real people" when it's very likely that pretty much all of the bots are still active. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago It doesn't matter. People have already made up their minds, facts are irrelevant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlindPenguin@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yandex also offers Cloud Services. Just saying... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dfyx@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Okay, good. Now show me the statistics that show that there are actually fewer bots than last week. Don't get me wrong, I desperately want these news to be true. But so far every single article I've seen links back (directly or indirectly) to that one CloudFlare chart that doesn't say what people think it says. Some point to a few individual posts that didn't get many interactions. But as far as I'm aware nobody has made the effort to check if there is an actual widespread difference and which topics it affects. Right now this all seems like confirmation bias and wishful thinking. And again, I get it. We need good news now more than ever. But the only thing worse than no good news is good news that just isn't true and leads to us letting our guard down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BlindPenguin@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago Oh, i'm with you, don't worry. Just wanted to note that. Yandex has several datacenters, so for a really noticeable drop they'd need to wipe several of them. Though, they might have some more spread around the world... permalink fedilink source parent [–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago That's why asked, because the cited source doesn't make the same claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago It doesn't matter. People have already made up their minds, facts are irrelevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlindPenguin@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children) Yandex also offers Cloud Services. Just saying... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dfyx@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Okay, good. Now show me the statistics that show that there are actually fewer bots than last week. Don't get me wrong, I desperately want these news to be true. But so far every single article I've seen links back (directly or indirectly) to that one CloudFlare chart that doesn't say what people think it says. Some point to a few individual posts that didn't get many interactions. But as far as I'm aware nobody has made the effort to check if there is an actual widespread difference and which topics it affects. Right now this all seems like confirmation bias and wishful thinking. And again, I get it. We need good news now more than ever. But the only thing worse than no good news is good news that just isn't true and leads to us letting our guard down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BlindPenguin@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago Oh, i'm with you, don't worry. Just wanted to note that. Yandex has several datacenters, so for a really noticeable drop they'd need to wipe several of them. Though, they might have some more spread around the world... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dfyx@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) Okay, good. Now show me the statistics that show that there are actually fewer bots than last week. Don't get me wrong, I desperately want these news to be true. But so far every single article I've seen links back (directly or indirectly) to that one CloudFlare chart that doesn't say what people think it says. Some point to a few individual posts that didn't get many interactions. But as far as I'm aware nobody has made the effort to check if there is an actual widespread difference and which topics it affects. Right now this all seems like confirmation bias and wishful thinking. And again, I get it. We need good news now more than ever. But the only thing worse than no good news is good news that just isn't true and leads to us letting our guard down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BlindPenguin@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago Oh, i'm with you, don't worry. Just wanted to note that. Yandex has several datacenters, so for a really noticeable drop they'd need to wipe several of them. Though, they might have some more spread around the world... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlindPenguin@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago Oh, i'm with you, don't worry. Just wanted to note that. Yandex has several datacenters, so for a really noticeable drop they'd need to wipe several of them. Though, they might have some more spread around the world... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago That's why asked, because the cited source doesn't make the same claims. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (2 children) https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9y7l0pm8jkko Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dihutenosa@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) Hmmm, it seems more strikes are needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago Libs gonna lib, hey? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dihutenosa@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) Hmmm, it seems more strikes are needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago Libs gonna lib, hey? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago Libs gonna lib, hey? permalink fedilink source parent