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As a historian, I’ve studied the major consumer boycotts of history. We can take down ChatGPT and send a powerful signal to Silicon Valley, says author and historian Rutger Bregman

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[–] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 135 points 2 months ago (9 children)

This is such a bleak time for tech enthusiasts.

It really feels like every single major tech company is making either absolutely moronic or completely evil choices

You are just stuck choosing between different flavors of shit

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are just stuck choosing between different flavors of shit

Or self-hosting your shit. Or at least find a friend who does...

[–] Wammityblam@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

True, but getting more expensive to do so by the day because of these AI companies.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 8 points 2 months ago

Fair point, no argument here! Can't wait for it all to implode, I've got a shopping list ready for when it does :)

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

It sucks even more to be a tech worker, your job is constantly threatened by automation, but you also hate working for an evil company that does not care about you, but good luck finding a non evil company that pays 6 figures

[–] Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 4 points 2 months ago

I guess we need to dip in retrotech

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[–] morto@piefed.social 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don't stop at chatgpt. Cancel any subscription you have! Stop using any big corporation you can!

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Internet subscription canceled! See you on the other side brother

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pirate the internet! Hack the planet! DDOS the universe!

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wish it was possible, Imagine mixing meshtastic with tcp/ip. it would be as slow as mid 90s, but forums/text based internet that doesn't rely on anything but communal decentralized infrastructure?

[–] JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch 9 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Meshcore might be a bit better suited for this, if you want to reach a forum further than 50-100km away reliably.

With the room servers it almost supports this use case already

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'd be all in on community driven networks if one existed around here. Perhaps I need to start....

"Oh ya here's the community Plex server. Heres our community forum."

Etc.

I'm imagining at some point a fediverse of small community owned networks.

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[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think it’s optimistic to think they would even care about a boycott now. By volunteering to cross the lines that Anthropic wouldn’t cross, they’ve achieved Military Industrial Complex status. It doesn’t matter if you don’t pay for a subscription, you’ll fund them with your tax dollars whether you want to or not. Their mass surveillance tools are too valuable to let them fail, so they’ll get propped up and bailed out no matter what.

[–] unit327@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago

Every additional customer using their product currently causes them to lose money, hand over fist.

You should still boycott them anyway though, they care about user numbers and user activity.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Not all GPT users are American/residing in America

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And keep in mind that Anthropic is just as pro-war and morally bankrupt as OpenAI; the only difference is they didn't donate as much to the Trump coffers.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

and also not Musk's Grok and not Google's Gemini and of course not the Chinese DeepSeek so what do we use then?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Preferably just our brains, but if not that, then perhaps somebody running an open model. DuckDuckGo and Proton both have "their own" options, and people with good enough hardware can run something locally too.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I know duckduckgo rely on Microsoft bing for search results so I was assuming the AI is from ChatGPT?

I just looked now at their chatbot and they offer dififerent options most are based on OpenAI's GPT (which even if self hosted, still relying on OpenAI). one other option based on Meta's Llama and Calude.

Only reasonable option seems to be Mistral Small 3 which /u/horseloaf seem to suggest as well.

I'll give it a try

[–] horseloaf@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mistral.ai Le Chat has the appearance of being more responsible and is offering open source models. I'm making no claims on their behalf, though.

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[–] the_armchair_potato@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People actually pay for ChatGPT? I am completely out of the loop lol. Maybe thats a good thing.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m a software developer for a small company with the two owners being the engineers and they have a Copilot subscription. It saves you countless man hours.

Looking up documentation is very rare now as it’s consumed that much data. It’s not perfect but it’s not we are vibe coding either it’s more like intellisense n steroids. We have lots of practices for how we do things and it learns from that context.

I wouldn’t pay for it for personal use but business use it’s actually great for us.

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This has been discussed on here many times. Barely anyone pays for LLMs. Only companies, corporations, and a few content creators do pay. Your common folk overwhelming majority does not.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 7 points 2 months ago

And yet, threads have been flooded the past couple of days with users proudly declaring how they're canceling their subscriptions after funneling who knows how much money into Altman's pockets unironically and without an ounce of shame lmfao

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[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bregman is a treasure. Very based analysis of societal problems and actually doing shit instead of only observing.

[–] stormeuh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yes, and he's such a great communicator as well. In those few paragraphs he packs arguments to convince people ranging from idealist liberals to cynical leftists.

[–] Sims@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

All US big tech feudal lords are helping the Fascist US regime. Even Antrophic. Boycott them all..

[–] br0da@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Cancelled 2 days ago. Feel terrible for not doing it sooner.

[–] YourItalianScallion@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

You'll be glad you quit when you did. ChatGPT is rotting people's brains.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Just out of curiosity: what value did you get from a subscription that made it worth it before?

[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Normal citizens actually pay for AI??

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

They are already on the enshittification path.

After the "please disregard copyright and generate all the Ghibli-style photos that you want" phase, now they enforce a 24 hour cooldown after any kind of image upload

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every penny given to a US company is bankrolling their government through taxes, and thus funding authoritarianism.

OpenAI has direct government contracts sure, but yeah.

I agree it sucks.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

That’s why I’m telling myself that my unemployment is a heroic assault on fascism.

[–] NOT_RICK_SANCHEZ@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I did my part this morning because fuck Sam Altman

[–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don’t pay for it. But use it. A lot.

GPUs are very expensive, so if you have them generating (for free) short stories of happy little kittens riding the subway in Manhattan or whatever, you are costing them a lot of money. Just don’t give them any data.

[–] courval@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

This is the way

[–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I recommend moving over to Mistral.
A European, non-fascist option.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

Bankrolled by Andreessen-Horowitz three times (2023, 2024, 2025), might depend on your definition of fascism.

According to billionaire tech investor Marc Andreessen, AI is good, fascists are saints, and anyone who stops rich people like him from funding, deploying, and doing whatever they want with tech is a literal murderer.

[–] horseloaf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I made a similar comment on this thread but I'm back-tracking now I've read about Marc Andreessen.

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 6 points 2 months ago

I can't believe this actually has to be said. "Stop funding the death star!" Who the hell is actually paying for a tier subscription for that slop?

People just really don't give a shit at all do they lmao

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Spoiler: All Americans that pay taxes are bankrolling authoritarianism. People who buy items from America are bankrolling authoritarianism.

Are all you Americans going to stop paying taxes?

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

They haven't used their 2nd amendment yet, so I doubt it.

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I recently cancelled my Office 365 subscription because I'm no longer willing to financially support Microsuck's bullshit. It was hard too. There isn't another groupware solution that works as well as Exchange. It was important enough for me to make the move despite that. I'm not completely cured of my Windows dependency yet but I'm working on it.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

You guys can afford subscriptions? I just make it toil for no reason because I’m a real capitalist

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