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ICE raided a restaurant in San Diego. ICE tossed two flash bangs at the crowd. (timesofsandiego.com)
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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 70 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm going to make some grim predictions.

  • ICE or the cops with them is going to start shooting people. They'll say something insane like they "were under assault" when the crowd was in fact just yelling at them. ICE/cops will make one bald-faced lie after another about the incident. The lies will have little or no connection to reality.

  • The media will explain this as being something worthy of debate when in fact ICE/cops clearly used of tools of death because they can and they knew they'd face no repercussions.

  • A court - probably federal - will charge some people in the crowd with crimes and some of the victims. If ICE/cops are charged with some kind of token offense - it will be for entirely unimportant misdemeanors.

  • The media will frame this new awfulness as debatable too.

  • Repeat.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 day ago
  • Congress pass a bipartisan bill that expands ICE powers.
[–] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Libs: "What do you mean you're not doing divinatory magic? WTF is 'pattern recognition'?!"

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If ICE/cops are charged with some kind of token offense - it will be for entirely unimportant misdemeanors.

They'll be charged with property damage because stray bullets broke some windows. Chuds will froth at the mouth and be outraged

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Normal cops do that shit all the time, they almost never get personally charged.

Maybe local property owners win a lawsuit against the local police, after 2 years, but then its just the city paying the insurance companies, meaning everyone is taxed for this... and the cops ~~administrative leave~~ paid vacation was only a couple weeks, maybe a month, they've been back at their job for over a year by the time the lawsuit finishes.

Local property owners could try to sue... ICE? DHS? ... If they can figure out who these guys are?

... And then that gets laughed out of court at some level, potentially the Supreme Court.

This is full military police state shit, I'd be amazed if there is any kind of accountability, in any legal sense, for any of this.... as our entire legal system is in the process of more or less cannibalizing itself right now.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

only the coolest legal systems have unrepresented 4 year olds in court having a "judge" explain to them what deportation is

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Everyone in America should gun down these terrorists on sight, what if that exploded near a baby?

[–] miz@hexbear.net 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] CutieBootieTootie@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Family of Toddler Injured by SWAT 'Grenade' Faces $1M in Medical Bills

The description of what they did to that baby is horrifying. A baby, split down to raw muscle and bone in a pool of it's own blood abducted by the police to try and save their own hide. There is no penalty harsh enough for someone who would disfigure a baby like that.

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Family of Toddler Injured by SWAT 'Grenade' Faces $1M in Medical Bills

amerikkka-clap

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if something like this happens again and some chud thinks it's antifa supersoldiers launching a "make everyone a gay trans cat girl OwO" attack and starts firing back into the crowd while blinded.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Communists: “we have to radicalize people.”

ICE: “hold my beer.”

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

More like "EVERYONE PUT THE DRINKS DOWN AND GET ON THE GROUND!"

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If we had a real opposition party in this country, they'd be quietly prepping to abolish ICE as soon as they have the presidency and even a slim congressional majority.

They won't, and it will be the biggest act of self-sabotage since they gleefully stripped back all the COVID expansions to the welfare state.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dems even campaign on giving ICE an increased budget, then wonder why they lose

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Dems were all like "Trump is giving ICE CRAZY amounts of money!" (and he was)

Then Joe upped their budget every year

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And prosecuting everyone who collaborated with ICE. “Just following orders” is not a valid excuse, and they are breaking the law.

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[–] possumparty@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago

The vapid fascist enablers are sitting at home twiddling their fingers just waiting for the day they regain power so they can do literally nothing to change anything Trump did back and pretend like they're going to punish him for his treason. They're part of the same team, there is no Left in American politics.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago

South Park is a dense, extremely residential area. Buona Forchetta is arguably the most popular pizza restaurant in San Diego. This was an early Friday summer evening. They knew the place would be busy, they knew the neighborhood would be busy. They wanted it to turn into this. Barbaric.

https://bsky.app/profile/nicoleinabox.bsky.social/post/3lqie4rorrc2n

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Heavily armed paramilitary forces stormed a local San Diego restaurant today, deployed stun grenades against a crowd of onlookers, and kidnapped a handful of kitchen workers.

https://bsky.app/profile/chadloder.bsky.social/post/3lqgzk2ocr227

In another thread - somebody wonders about the patches.

https://bsky.app/profile/letsgomathias.bsky.social/post/3lqht5sini22w

Another comment about the patches

https://bsky.app/profile/alyssaharad.bsky.social/post/3lqhufggql22z

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Ninja edit

I'll say one thing for reddit - at least it's easy to quote-link stuff. Everybody at Bluesky quote-posts for maximum likes and it gets super-annoying for me to figure out what info is in what tab I have open at the time.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Well hey there ya go, literal brown shirts.

EDIT:

Also... I believe the guy on the right has a Sig Sauer MPX... 9mm (or 357 sig, or 40 cal), full auto capable, not sure if this particular one is integrally suppressed or the suppressor is attached...

US Army is an offical MPX user, but concievably any large scale US Federal LE, or even SWAT team or police department could use them as well, as well as basically just any LE person that can get a class 3 NFA due to their position.

Guy on the left seems to have a non standard issue pistol. Fancy grip and magwell, flared out duckbill ... could be a customized M17? Not sure.

The grenade launcher he has is often used for crowd control: tear gas rounds, flash bang rounds, smoke, etc, they could have come out of this thing.

I got no fucking clue what that patch design is.

EDIT 2

Also possibly worth mentioning:

A fun way you can tell they are dressed for maximum intimidation effect?

Helmets, all tricked out, earpro/radios, eyepro, face masks... but no serious body armor.

They're both just wearing minimal chest rigs, which probably (?) have kevlar in them, but theres very little area actually protected... they'd maybe stop a pistol round or two, not a rifle round though.

They don't even have kneepads.

This is the kit you choose if you expect basically no armed resistance, but want to move fast and look very scary.

An actual raid against people you'd expect armed resistance from... they'd have more serious body armor.

EDIT 3:

At the rate things are going, I would not be surprised if within a month or two, these guys start rolling in with LRADs mounted... you know, the directed sound weapon things we invented to do crowd control in Iraq.

They may already be on some of their vehicles, just haven't used them yet.

EDIT 4:

Total guess on the patches?

E ## is either 'Extraction Team Member ##' or possibly 'Echo Team Member ##'... if its the latter, that just means there's multiple different teams, Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, etc...

But that is a total guess.

Still no fucking clue on the insignia.

[–] copandballtorture@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

LRADs mounted... you know, the directed sound weapon things we invented to do crowd control in Iraq.

Something something imperialism something something fascism turned inwards

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

SORRY WHAT I CANT HEAR YOU MY EARS ARE EXPLODING YOULL HAVE TO TALK LOUDER

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

In a better world every member of ICE would get the wall wall-flipped

[–] ProgAimerGirl@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

[–] copandballtorture@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I hope something bad happens to Mr "all due respect" up there

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think they're saying it to a positive way to the person who posted the video. Iow, what's being done by the people is working and this is an example of ICE being forced to escalating in response.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago

Local orgs are saying much the same thing, framing this as ICE being forced to retreat because of the rapid community response.

Everyone and anyone, be ready to film these encounters if you see them and post them somewhere. This shit spreads like wildfire in local communities, people will show up. And it also raises awareness. This is a very popular pizza place that chuds also enjoy

[–] ProgAimerGirl@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

eh, idk i didn't post the clip as a dunk. this poster (who isn't a mr. btw) might overstate the position a bit, there's definitely a lot of police overreach here and these fascists will increasingly be looking for the excuse to use their kit, but they've been raiding businesses for months in increasingly brazen fashion and in basically all cases they haven't drawn a crowd big enough to count as that excuse for use of force. i think i land somewhere in the middle; it may not be "mass spontaneous resistance" yet, but people are slowly getting more agitated about this bullshit, and the fascists are scared of that turning into mass resistance, and so they're gonna start overreaching more often.

[–] copandballtorture@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

Yeah I think you and @joebyethen are right and I misinterpreted it.

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[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Everyone's upset and we should be but this is a mistake. This is the kind of unpopular escalation that if repeated gets spread around in raw videos online and turns more people on the side-lines against them.

As Malcolm X said, those chickens are going to eventually come home to roost.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

these guys definitely need another 150 billion dollars

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

I wonder how much state-of-the-art hardcore military hardware they'll buy. I wouldn't be surprised if ICE's official statement includes a middle finger to the public by way of pop culture references. They say they need the matériel for "urban pacification" in text that sounds like it could have appeared in movies like RoboCop.

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[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago

illegal-to-say your local ICE precinct

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

Nuremberg all these ICE terrorists. Or just toss them in barbara-pit

They deserve all the dorner and luigi-dance.

Death to Amerikkka.

[–] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

Hopefully next time someone in the crowd tosses some hot lead back

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

This thread has video - https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social/post/3lqhwqeqgus2w

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People are saying there is no resistance, but here you have unarmed white suburbanites spontaneously pushing back against a heavily militarized force. That's a pretty good start.

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