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I hate my monitor for that. Entering the bios is guesswork about when to press a key if I remember what key to press. Also I can't turn it on too early before the PC or it will go to stand by after not receiving a signal for two seconds and then take even longer.
I want a monitor turns on and stays on.
Let me guess, samsung odyssey? Had one of those, never again.
Friend even called me that he has fucked up his pc rebuild - his Samsung monitor was just not waking up because it literally turns off.
I've learned the hard way that there's only one decent Samsung product line - from big appliances to little electronics - and it's their phones (and even those leave questions on privacy).
That's funny, while I still buy Samsung TVs, I hate their phones. So much of what their phones can do is usually locked to only working in Samsung's apps and those are universally dog shit. The phones themselves are also often privacy and user control nightmares.
Granted, there isn't a lot of good choices for phones these days. I'm still running an old LG phone and have been looking outside Android as my next possible solution. But, I also haven't had a reason to upgrade.
Have a Samsung TV and it's by far my least favorite. Turns off at random, takes forever to switch inputs, turns on at random...
As for phones I'm eyeing the Motorola RazrFold, since they're supposedly offering it Graphene-ready
Turn off all of the Energy Saving/Eco Solution crap. It will stop turning off and you will get s brighter inage that doesn't shift in brightness.
You should also switch to Movie mode in the picture settings and set dejudder/deblur (under Motion Clarity) to 0 while you're at it so it doesn't turn everything into 60 fps with fake frames.
It's an MSI but now looking at pictures ofequivalent samsung odysseys it might very well be the same monitor with a different sticker on the back.
And yes, it turns off, the PC doesn't see a monitor so it doesn't send a signal, and the monitor doesn't turn on either because it's not receiving any signal.
REISUB time when that happens.
All modern monitors are like this now. Dell, HP, Asus...
Doesn't detect input? Instant power off. Now you have to press the menu key every 5 seconds to try and find the input for your PC.
Beyond ridiculous. I have a Dell that's like 15 years old and it stays on for multiple minutes before going into power saving. It's glorious
I have a modern Lenovo monitor (2020) that takes longer to wake up than my hp monitor. So annoying.
Edit: aforementioned is from 2011 and is a zr2040w.
The Lenovo monitor is a d22e-20
Fun fact about monitors turning on slowly: did you know Windows has a bluescreen code for that?
The WIN32K_POWER_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT bug check has a value of 0x0000019C. This indicates that Win32k did not turn the monitor on in a timely manner.
That's right, Windows will panic and throw a bluescreen if your monitors take a little too long to wake up. Had the pleasure of dealing with this suddenly becoming an issue and causing wide bluescreens on wakeup after an update back in mid-2024, on any Surface Dock using DisplayPort with specific Acer monitors.
Woah woah..... is there someplace in the event logs where this would show? Does this mean that you cannot run a windows computer headless?
It gets logged in the event viewer, yeah. That's how I discovered it, on account of the screens not waking up in time to show the actual bluescreen. The users were only reporting that their computers were deleting all their windows when waking up. From their perspective, all they saw was their computer taking a mildly longer time to wake up from deep sleep and then losing their entire session, but what it was actually doing was hard rebooting.
Headless is fine, the bug was specifically triggered when a computer woke up and detected a monitor exists, but the monitor took some unspecified amount of time too long to wake up. It was also fixed at some point, I'm not sure when, but it went on long enough that we swapped dozens of cables because it specifically only happened on the ones using DisplayPort, not HDMI.
Oh shit, this may be the problem I've been having with my laptop dock at work
THIS WAS THE MEME I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR!! Thanks!
I feel like the boot time is almost entirely uefi ram timing shenanigans these days
What's this "boot" of which you speak?
Do people really turn their machines off these days?
You've got to reboot after kernel updates, otherwise it can't load new modules. I've been confused at least twice why something didn't load until.I remembered the reboot.
Yup. My entire PC desk (monitor, PC, 2+1 speakers) draw 7W when the PC is turned off (old speakers draw power when off for some reason). For comparison: My NUC server draws 7W white turned on, doing useful work. This infuriates me, so I got a zigbee power switch and shut the PC desk completely off when I'm not home.
If 7W for nothing pisses me off, you're damn straight an idle or sleeping PC will too!
I thought arch was all about reducing bloat. Is gentoo better than arch?
Gentoo recompiles everything, so it can do optimisations based on your particular setup Arch can't.
You can also just recompile the kernel and any utils yourself on Arch, if you want
You can recompile the kernel in any distro. In Gentoo, you have to compile the kernel (because you compile everything).
In Gentoo, you have to compile the kernel
This is not true any more. Gentoo provides sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin as an option.
Yeah, but I'm using Arch cause I have better things to do. You guys have fun compiling your own stuff without me.
Obviously arch can be rebuilt pretty easily, gentoo does almost nothing that arch can't, and rebuilding itself osn't one of those things. Look up ABS.
Arch is about telling other people what you use. If you use gentoo, you can take way more pride in you installation.
Arch is pourover coffee; Gentoo is those ridiculous Rube Goldberg setups that take 45 minutes to make a single cup. Both are for hipsters.
Ubuntu is that shitty Keurig machine with big plastic pods, but they call them "snaps".
Does that make Debian standard filter coffee? The coffee everyone can get behind π«Ά
I'd argue that there's literally no difference in difficulty of installing Arch vs Gentoo vs LFS. The only difference lies in the convenience of package management. Arch is very convenient, everything is precompiled. Gentoo is more time consuming. No difference in setting stuff up tho. LFS makes you be the package manager. Which isn't really difficult, all programs clearly state which dependencies they have, but it's just much more time consuming.
Arch basically happens at a granularity of individual packages. You decide from the ground up which packages you actually need, which is how you end up with a comparatively minimal setup.
But yeah, if the package itself is big, then Arch doesn't usually deal with that. The Linux kernel comes with drivers for most hardware out of the box, which you can remove, if you know you won't need that hardware.
And while this can also be done on Arch, it is Gentoo's thing to do precisely that.
To add to this, the big thing you get when using Gentoo is to setup your compiler to use all of the optimizations for your exact CPU/other hardware.
The binaries for arch are built for generic x86-64, while your Gentoo system could bet setup to include AMD-specific optimizations or to remove code paths that you would never used based on your hardware.
The result will be that the binaries will typically be smaller and optimized specifically for your hardware.
The downside is that a system update will take you half a day of churning your CPU on compiling.
Gentoo is GOAT. I am also glad that Arch exists though. Both have excellent wikis, good knowledgeable communities, lots of configuration options. In terms of pure speed, it is hard to beat a build it all from source as per your own custom USE flags setup like in Gentoo.
Folk w/o FDE ...
What?
Full disk encryption
(I can't beat monitor powering up.)
Slowing you down. Ah, same. I may have used higher than default iterations π
this reminds me i should update my kernel
Those modules, manβ¦ theyβre the biggest cause ofβdare I say it?βbloat in the kernel.
For the few people here who may not know about it: thereβs a utility called modprobe-db that watches what kernel modules get loaded at runtime, and can generate a kernel build config file accordingly. Thereβs even an ArchWiki article about it. You need to keep it around for a while (e.g. several weeks or months) so it can get a proper sample of the modules you use; that way, your kernel can have all the modules you need (ask me how I know). If you do it right, however, you can slim down your compile time significantly.
I'll ask! How do you know? Lol
All jokes aside, I think this might really help me with a side project I've been working on. Ive been trying to get full disk encryption working on a NanoPi R6S running NixOS. The issue that im having is that im not sure exactly what modules I need in the initrd. When I boot, there is no output on the display after systemd-boot shows.
The manufacturer puts out a version of Ubuntu thats works flawlessly so I know its possible. But I'll pass on the snaps and id rather not use uboot. System is working with edk2 and nixos.
Long story short, will this software allow me to figure out what is running in the manufacturer's kernel and port it over?
Keep going. Kevin can get smaller, leaner, faster and hopefully has apparmor or selinux already.