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[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 2 points 40 minutes ago

When France and Germany did not follow the US under G. W. Bush into Iraq in 2003, the language used did not differ significantly from the language about not following the US into the Straight of Hormuz.

Obama had SOOO MUCH to make up for and wasn't able to rehabilitate the image of the US... and then everything got EVEN WORSE!

You've been like this AT LEAST since Regan. Trump is not the cause, he is a SYMPTOM of a sickness that has festered for AT LEAST 45 years, not only in your politics but in american society.

I imagine it'll take about the same amount of time to change the american people back into a nation that can be respected instead of feared and loathed.

Trump is nothing, he's unimportant in the grand scheme of things. The real enemy is the mindset of a majority (republican or democrat) of americans.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Fix the American government, education system, and legal system.

Thanklessly.

It won’t be fixed in one term, probably not two, maybe see it start to work a decade after they leave office.

It’s going to take years to earn back trust, but no matter what happens, America will never have the power it used to have.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The fact you guys are still treating Trump as a "one off" is wild.

To the rest of the world that's the image of Americans, for decades now.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 hours ago

That is something Americans don't really understand. Trump has pushed the envelope but he isn't as much of an outlier as many Americans would like to believe. His incompetence and arrogance make it easy to see how awful he is but his agenda is the regular American agenda with some more guardrails removed. They don't seem to notice that their Senate, Congress and Supreme Court have mainly supported him with exceedingly little pushback.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Round up Trump, his cabinet, and advisors and then ship them to Iran so they can face justice.

Make a heart felt apology to the world and cut the military budget in half with plans to wind down military spending completely thus eliminating US standing army.

Massively increase the amount of representatives in Congress, eliminate the Senate, triple the size of SCOTUS, remove dark money from politics, remove all insider trading by passing strict laws against it, remove the revolving door public/private regulatory capture nightmare, bring in ranked voting for all federal elections, force all politicians to only campaign on policy, hold all authority to stricter and much higher standards, ratify the equal rights amendment, create sound privacy laws, breakup all mega corps, and increase taxation beyond total worth of 10 million to 99.999999%.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Calling it now, it's more likely the fed will be broken up and progressive states will join the EU.

Not saying it will happen. Just that it's more likely than the US suddenly and comprehensively doing the right thing.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Yes, I don't think the US is changing in any sort of positive way anytime soon.

Joining the EU is an interested idea.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

Within America would be pretty easy, you just have to listen to your constituent demands and acknowledge them publicly with proper respect. Like how Mamdani was literally the only candidate who wasn't shilling for Israel and actually explained his policy which people wanted.

Internationally, lol it was already down the gutter post WWII. Kind of hard to realive foreign leaders you already assasinated.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Do you mean within the US or trust internationally?

The rest of the world has begrudgingly let the US dominate world commerce, culture, and morality. Now they're realizing how much of their own identity they've given away, and are struggling to recover from it. Critically, even if the US ever gets their shit together again, nobody else wants to go back to the same relationship they had. We've been forced out of an abusive relationship, and now we're free.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 hours ago

And here I am, stuck living in the one country in the world that's only getting closer to the US: Israel. I pray that by the end of the next decade or three, when the dust settles, we'll be closer to Europe instead, as we've been in the past. But that seems practically impossible.

Sigh maybe I'll move to Europe. I'd probably fit in better culturally.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (3 children)
  1. Hang every person on the Epstein list.
  2. Abolish lobbying and any level of secrecy for politicians
  3. Reclaim all private property owned by anyone with more than 5 million dollars and fairly redistribute it.
  4. Disband the CIA.
  5. Make all documents in the government public record.
  6. Write a new constitution listing all possible ways the government could be exploited to be reviewed anually with lifetime Incarnation and labor for violations and compounding punishment for each individual involved.
[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

For sure everyone in that list should get mandatory 5 years for just being on the list. More if there's other instances.

For sure, lobbyists need to be gone period.

I don't honestly think you could rewrite the Constitution and have it be impartial in the slightest. Maybe if you pulled 100+ random Americans and put them in a room for a year with no outside contact. There's no politician that isn't bought already that should do it.

[–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I know it'll never happen, but I'd like to add 7. All presidents will be forced to live at the poverty level after their term is over for the rest of their life. No rich friends, no stocks or businesses.

We'd get UBI real quick after that.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

All politicians and supreme court judges, not just presidents ideally.

[–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

I was going to say that, but I felt it was at least slightly plausible that we might make one guy a sacrificial lamb, rather than most of the elected officials.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

3 while your heart is in the right place would cause so much harm to innocent people that frankly you might as well just fucking start beating people with a bat at random. You would do less harm.

5m is NOT a lot of money depending on how you cut it. Hell my family has roughly 6.3 million because of the house we all live in and have lived in for 100 years. Because it was built by my great grandfather and maintained and expanded by every generation.

Most of my family is currently loving pay check to pay check. And the rest only barely better then that. Taking away private property just based on a random amount of money owned is unreason, fucked up, and WILL get people killed due to how hard that can and will destabilize entire families.

4 is flat out retarded. Every country on fucking earth has a international division of their government. Your actively a dipshit that understands nothing if you think that's remotely a reasonable let alone even a good idea.

Better oversight? Sure, disband? Actually a bleach drinking take.

[–] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Next? This is gonna be a generational problem. Once trust is broken you can't buy it back.

[–] AgentRocket@feddit.org 3 points 12 hours ago

Exactly. There was a chance to win back trust after the orange idiots first term, but now that the US has shown it is willing to make the same stupid mistake again, no matter what the next president does, there's always the possibility of another idiot ruining everything after that. only chance is for the American people to stop being 50:50 split and take a clear stance against fascists.

[–] Lehmuusa@nord.pub 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

Simple: refrain from doing any stupid shit for half a century. Any stupid shit will kick the timer backwards 70% of the elapsed time.

(There really is no other way)

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Germany was forgiven much faster than 50 years.

[–] Lehmuusa@nord.pub 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, that's true. Although, not by much. I remember that in 1990's there was still plenty of distrust towards them, as they were seen as nazis. Nobody wanted Germany to become strong. The 1990's began 45 yeqrsnafter WWII had ended, and while the trust had been almost recovered, it was still not intact. I'm not sure if it's even now: Germany is the biggest reason we didn't support Ukraine militarily as much as needed back in spring 2022. They wanted cheap gas and were ready to accept horrors in the name of political realism. It's hard at least for me to not see a connection between that cynicism and what the same cynicism led to in 1920's and 1930's.

[–] DKKHGGGj@sopuli.xyz 5 points 15 hours ago

This. Trust is a function of time and commitment. Especially time. Easy to lose hard to gain

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[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That'd be my step 1, personally

Step 2 is proving it

[–] HamsterRage@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that what the current one does constantly???

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

See step 2 is really where the meat lies

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

By throwing the last one under the bus. Literally.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I've been thinking about it. It's not good enough to say "Sorry, last guy was a dipshit." Especially since the majority of people in the US think he is a dipshit right now.

I think we would need to remove said dipshit from power, and prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. Then remove anyone who knew he was a dipshit and had responsibility to say/do something about it, and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law where appropriate. Then find anyone that supported the dipshit in exchange for favors from the dipshit, and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

After all that, then we need to get laws in place that prevent this kind of dipshittery from happening again. Specifically, we need heavy penalties for election campaign finance and ethics violations. Ranked choice voting seems like a pretty good way to prevent us from having to a choose between the two least likeable assholes in the country to lead us. Big money needs to be out of politics, remove Citizens United, remove the ability of corporations to make campaign contributions, and maybe even make campaign finances be paid out of a government fund where each a candidate gets an equal amount.

Once we've removed the dipshits, and prevented the possibility of a dipshit getting elected again, the last ingredient for this redemption recipe is time. People aren't just going to forget what has happened. We need to demonstrate consistent stability and sanity in both our foreign and domestic politics for at least a decade or two.

I don't think all of this will happen TBH. A more realistic redemption is a complete restructure of the United States, and probably a separation into a few different countries, varying in sanity from a solarpunk future state to the religious-zealot-lead redneckistan.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah the behavior of the Democratic party makes it clear that they will take down the empire before permitting any reform.

Somehow they are always one vote short!

And they're also all in their fucking 80s.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't think the Democrats can't be reformed until the Republicans party is eliminated, or ranked choice voting is enacted nation-wide.

We can't take risks on more progressive candidates when a loss results in a literal child-raping Nazi getting elected instead.

This isn't a "no, you're wrong" rebuke, but a "yes, but first..." agreement.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

It's always a good time to re read Letter From a Birmingham Jail.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 4 points 15 hours ago

Trust amongst your allies is absolutely fucked. Itll take years for you to get it back

[–] Pyrixas@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago

It has to be in phases, most importantly, it has to be consistent.

First President-Elect after Shitstain, would have to spend their entire first year, rolling back what they're capable. They'd have to figure a way to permanently codify long-debated issues to settle the score 'once and for all' so that nobody, not even Congress or the Supreme Court or themselves, can ever roll it back. It would have to be a series of votes and passes to make it this way. Once it's done, it's done, no take-backs.

Second year in, they would spend that time prosecuting, chasing and holding accountable, all and any traitors to the country from government to other branches. America should be about weeding out the traitors.

Third year in, they can spend that year, trying to remedy fractured allies that Shitstain ruined. America should still be America first, after all, there's a lot of work to be done to fix itself, but it should also be lenient to the globe as well.

Fourth year in, campaign time and see and hope that they remain.

Regardless of any scenario, it's still down to the people to even get someone who is like this and to keep up supporting and voting people like this. We are always one general election cycle away from all of the effort being undone because people are intentionally ill-informed and that gullible to buy into manufactured lies.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 6 points 17 hours ago

It just won't happen. Our institutions are weak and very subject to outside influence. Everyone in the world can see it.

If our corrupt oligarchs allow an election, the next president will still have to deal with their financial power, the private electronic surveillance state they control, their overwheming control of our very corrupt court system, etc.

If the dems were interested in fixing the problem it would take focused effort over multiple terms. The dems are not interested in fixing the problem. This is just who we are as a nation-state.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 8 points 18 hours ago

put current administartion in jail to a man, abolish both parties, start extensive campaign rooting out the corruption and influence of the rich from your country. 2/3 of those at least.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (4 children)
  • New Nuremberg trials for all in, and allies propping up, the former regime

  • Transparent audit of everything trump broke and real-time checklist of process to restore critical needs, prioritizing human lives.

  • A lasting and appropriate punishment for trump himself

  • Recovering the funds to do all of the above from trump and complicit billionaires in the private sector - starting with musk for his own crimes against humanity.

  • A job corp to employ all of the AI layoffs, similar to the New Deal's Civilian Conservation Corps. Needs a healthy vetting to avoid left over trump chuds

  • Expand the Supreme Court

  • End Citizens United

  • All trump appointees, in all positions, are removed from offices immediately. If not convicted in new Nuremberg trials, they can still reapply for positions and be consists as any other

  • The demolished east wing will be rebuilt as a simple building and used as a museum to the attrocities that trump committed and the people and institutions that enabled him. An artist will be commissioned to design a pitch black facade, perhaps in the shape of the old building. It should look out of place and awkward, and stand forever as a sort of black eye on America. To show how the nation was injured and not cover it up. There will be legislation to perpetually fund the museum and make admission free to all.

The future will require a simple understanding - there was not an equivalency here, no two valid sides. The was objective wrong and right. No more pretending

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[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Severe and thorough retribution.

Republicans MUST pay.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

As a unitedstatesian: I genuinely do not believe the trust we’ve squandered with parts of the world that (previously) didn’t mind us / considered us allies is going to be recovered in my lifetime. Our idiocy has put far too many things in motion that are going to have irrevocable consequences for the very long term. For instance: just today, the US is apparently considering suspending Spain for disrupting operation Epstein Fury, despite the fact that there is absolutely no mechanism within the NATO charter to unilaterally do that to Spain.

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[–] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is a downfall, you guys haven't even reached the lowest point yet. You already talk about getting back up. This is what's great about America. But the real answer is: Trump isn't alone and was openly racist, misogynistic, dumb and indecent about it all. It's the fact that he was able to even start considering a career in politics that needs to be addressed.

Showering the world with gifts and promises isn't going to change anything. If we're all just waiting for the next fucker to arrive. You have to do something far more substantial like giving up veto rights, or something stupid like that. Which would be completely idiotically desperate lost-the-war type of concessions in peace time.

The fact of the matter is that this isn't going to happen and all the world can hope for is that things calm down and the internal temsions in the country come to a conclusion the world can support.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

Very well put.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

To gain back Americans' trust? Almost nothing.

To gain back other countries' trust? Quite a lot.

To actually be a good president and make the country a reasonably decent place to live? Not realistic for one presidency.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

That would be a good start. Continue with fixing your country, and be nice to those outside your borders. Even the US cannot survive on its own.

Restore the rule of law, and make sure traitors like Trump end up behind bars. No mercy for those who had no mercy with others.

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