That's crazy talk. Obviously the light from distant stars was created in transit to fool heathen astronomers, just like the fossils of prehistoric creatures were implanted on Earth, to fool paleontologists.
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No no no, fossils come from the great flood, from the Bible. At least, that's what creationists use as an argument in debates....
As for star light: yes, that's right.
Which I guess means carbon dating isn't real. Which I guess means our entire understanding of chemistry is wrong. Only possible explanation.
Ah, good to know, thank you
Is there even anything in Genesis to suggest that the 'days' were 24h long? I could see it being meant metaphorically...
I grew up catholic and was sent to catholic school and this is what we were taught. That the creation story is metaphor, the catholic church believes God used the big bang and evolution to create the world and people, ect.
Wanna know a secret... God didn't even write that part. God's version has him at a kmart in Toledo, Iowa buying the entire universe on a Saturday in 1997, at which point he installed it, but it did take several days because it was football season, but it was less than a week no matter what anyone else says.
There is “old earth creationism” which works along those lines. But creationists are “literalists,” which actually means they believe a specific interpretation of the text taught to them by their pastor.
Really, you’d think that most anyone reading the texts would realize that Genesis 1 and 2 were mutually contradicting…
So I grew up around creationists. When I presented this idea, the only attempt at a justification I heard was something like "in the original Hebrew the word for a literal day was used, that's how we know creation happened in literal 6 days"
Which baffled me enough to shut me up, so that guy probably thinks he convinced me.
Well duh, if they meant metaphorical day, they should have used the hebrew word for metaphorical days.
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"No, that wasn't a metaphor! The Bible is literal truth!"
"What about 'The land shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are strangers and sojourners with Me,' or 'But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind,' or 'Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy.'?"
"Those parts were metaphorical!"

As a kid growing up in Texas, my Methodist church basically just squared the creation myth as metaphor. "What is the length of a day to god?" Essentially equating the scientific explanations, as simply the way god did it. So there wasn't really any controversy about learning about evolution and the age of the universe.
I was a closet atheist, but never realized there was much controversy about evolution until I was in high school and terminally online.
Yea, Catholics and Mainline Protestants like Episcopalians, Methodists, Presbyterians etc are like this. Georges Lemaître, a Catholic priest, was one of the figures responsible for the big bang theory
I grew up the same, mostly because allowing so much as not literal means and easier time for a pastor that also does car upholstery part time to sell any concept. Literalism is pretty demanding a a position.
The literalist interpretation was seen as extreme until maybe 20 years ago. I was shocked to learn about how many denominations are going in for it now. But maybe that's just the internet showing me parts of the world I hadn't seen before.
Methodists are pretty chill from what I've seen.
It's the same logic as God burying dinosaur bones 6000 years ago to test our faith.
One of my shining moments as an atheist was leading a coworker to realize that the above reasoning was bullshit.
She was already part way there just by asking me about it, I just answered her questions until she arrived at the right conclusion.
That claim always pissed me off. Like, what kind of god would actively attempt to trick people and be worth worshipping.
The story of Job is a great showcase of God being a cunt.
"He devil, you want to see how much I can ruin this guy's life before he hates me?"
I remember in high school when the principal came into class one day and said how that's his favorite story from the bible. That shit's fucked up
I was homeschooled for most of K-12, and all my peers were crazy fundies. I have so many stories.
I collect that kind of stuff for fun + have some exposure to Christian education communities.
Were you doing ACE? Those workbooks should be illegal.
I did ACE. The (barely) fat kid was named Pudge. WTF. Looking back on it now, the educational parts were actually pretty good in places but everything else on top of it was pretty bad
Guys... Youre trying to apply physics/logic to a supposedly all power deity. Just say the world was just created as is last Thursday or something in its current state. Like if your going to make shit up you don't have to make it so complicated. It's all BS anyway...
This is why I'm agnostic - it's basically impossible to either confirm or deny the existence of a higher power, but I don't believe in any particular gods or anything
i think i became a little stupider after reading that
I mean that or just pre-calculate it and place the light at the same time you place the stars
But precalculating is just waste of resources when you are building a pure procedural universe.
Analysis of the light from SN1987A suggests this has not happened. By observing light traversing two paths to reach earth, we can work out how far away the supernova is without relying on a particular value of c, and then work out what c must be out there.
This still makes some assumptions on the speed of light, but it would have to vary in a very specific way to give this same effect.
It's obviously a race condition in the simulation software. The stars database is loaded before the c constant.
This will be patched in a future update, however current simulation will need a data wipe for the updated behaviour to show.
Something about the simulation getting its CPU time shaped.
I feel like all of the quantum stuff would be a good way to save storage space. Superposition is essentially lazy evaluation.
This is part of the basis of a lot of simulation theory from what I understand. The way electrons behave under observation is very similar to the way a computer renders a 3d world. It doesn't calculate or draw everything in the entire environment, simply what is under direct observation by the user(s).
When you're trying to look at science but the delusion won't get out of the way.
lol such a trickster.
Further confirmation that the Christian god is actually just post-Ragnarok Loki.
I love that due to the way religious silliness works that there is no real way to refute this assertion.
God might have allowed literally anything.
God has allowed a questionable amount, in fact.
There are plenty of things God “might have done,” But this sort of thing is neither scientific nor scriptural.
In which case the distances astronomers have measured based on light travel time are insanely larger than thought and the problem of a big universe isn't solved.
God damn they've been vomiting the same bullshit for at least 50 years and it's just as dumb as it was from the get go.
Imagine all the cosmic background radiation and starlight of 4 billion years, as measured in the outer universe, landing on Earth in a time-dilated period of only 7 days. Earth would be cooked. By my calculation, the surface of the Earth would get up to 1900 Kelvin.